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The Waveform explains the Fediverse and the protocol war

Even though I’m on here, I honestly lurk most of the time and don’t fully understand the activitypub vs at protocol war. This was a great explainer that will reach a lot of people. Really appreciate a lot of David’s takes. I hope David and others at MKBHD become aware of and talk about Lemmy soon too.

0x0 ,

So a bunch of navelgazers talking with other navelgazers, typical 2024 net.

It’s hard to know why Meta wants the fediverse: they can already scrape most of the data and it doesn’t pose a threat to them, so why bother EEEing it? Maybe kill it while it’s growing?

The only useful information i got was that AT supports account migration, that’s cool.

davidfield ,
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It’s an interesting video and having read the comments there are a few things worth noting:

  1. from a layman’s perspective I understand the focus on threads, for most like it or not it’s the simplest entry point into the Fediverse
  2. its important that this type of podcast is talking about this subject at this time
  3. sure it’s dumbed down, we are not the audience

It’s no surprise either it was released as Meta did some big fediverse PR yesterday…

What’s important right now is getting bums on seats, keeping activitypub momentum moving forward.

Interesting video, hope it spawns more curiosity

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Eugh MKBHD. Biggest tech stooge around, what’s the bet this is a puff piece for some company.

pastermil ,

You should see the other guy…

spaduf ,

It’s honestly so hard to take them seriously.

TropicalDingdong ,

I just don’t want to participate with Threads. i dont think they are good people. How do I fight that war?

GBU_28 ,

I think leave if your instance federates. Vote with your feet, not much else you can do

TropicalDingdong ,

🤷

Just finished the video. The whole thing came across as fairly naive and seemed mostly focused on Threads and thinking about the fediverse as an extension/ only making it because of Threads. I think it should be noted that on both Mastadon and lemmy, the bigger players on the thrediverse, its specficially and culturally “against” the kind of ownership model that facebook brings to the table. Because of this i think Facebooks involvement deserves more scrutiny, specifically, if they think they can become dominant over the activity pub/ different federated apps development, they can take control.

Which should be real concern for all of us. Meta is a bad company of effectively all bad faith actors. And I didn’t see anything challenging the underlying presumptions the portend these companies. What I saw was some tech adjacent content creators with one big name creator as anchor effectively discussing how to colonize the fediverse.

My opinion is that we need free and open and un-owned spaces on the internet.

I’m not interested in threads and I generally think we should distrust any large companies involvement in the threadiverse beyond simply having an account.

blindbunny ,

Just keep shit posting

0x0 ,

Most clients allow you to block an entire domain.

solrize ,

What protocol war and who cares about it, without asking me to watch a video? I have felt that the main conflict in the fediverse was human disagreement over who should be allowed to discuss what, not about protocols. Look at the current battle about vegan cat food, for example.

Fern OP ,
@Fern@lemmy.world avatar

Doh! Didn’t mean to link to a specific time in the video.

recursive_recursion ,
@recursive_recursion@programming.dev avatar

you can still edit the link to remove the timestamp btw~

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