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Why are so many leaders in tech evil?

I remember when I was growing up, tech industry has so many people that were admirable, and you wanted to aspire to be in life. Bill Gates, founders of Google Larry Page, Sergey brin, Steve Jobs (wasn’t perfect but on a surface level, he was still at least a pretty decent guy), basically everyone involved in gaming from Xbox to PlayStation and so on, Tom from MySpace… So many admirable people who were actually really great…

Now, people are just trash. Look at Mark Zuckerberg who leads Facebook. Dude is a lizard man, anytime you think he has shown some character growth he does something truly horrible and illegal that he should be thrown in prison for. For example, he’s been buying up properties in Hawaii and basically stealing them from the locals. He’s basically committing human rights violations by violating the culture of Hawaiian natives and their land deeds that are passed down from generation to generation. He has been systematically stealing them and building a wall on Hawaii, basically a f*cking colonizer. That’s what the guy is. I thought he was a good upstanding person until I learned all these things about him

Current CEO of Google is peak dirtbag. Dude has no interest in the company or it’s success at all, his only concern is patting his pockets while he is there as CEO, and appeasing the shareholders. He has zero interest in helping or making anyone’s life pleasant at the company. Truly a dirtbag in every way.

Current CEO of Home Depot, which I now consider a tech company because they have moved out of retail and into the online space and they are rapidly restructuring their entire business around online sales, that dude is a total piece of work conservative racist. I remember working for this company, This dude’s entire focus is eliminating as many people as feasibly possible from working in the store, making their life living heck, does not see people as human beings at all. Just wants to eliminate anyone and everyone they possibly can, think they are a slave labor force

Elon musk, we all know about him, don’t need to really say much. Every time you think he’s doing something good for society, he proves you wrong And does the worst thing he can possibly do in that situation. It’s like he’s specifically trying to make the world the worst place possible everyday

Like, damn. What the heck happened to the world? You know? I thought the tech industry was supposed to be filled with these brilliant genius people who are really good for the world…

Fedditor385 ,

Their job is to maximize shareholder profit. That is their only and one true job as CEOs. If you want a CEO that is not evil, look for companies that are not public even though they could be.

Etterra ,

Because sociopathic tenancies are useful when on your way to the top. It lets you step on everyone else in your way and then do whatever you want without having to care about others.

untorquer ,

They all have a story like this. They are all terrible.

I think Gareth Reynolds said it or was it Jordan from knowledge fight? But once you reach a billion you should get a medal saying you won capitalism then be 100% taxed the rest of your life.

masquenox ,

I remember when I was growing up,

You remember propaganda (when corporations do it, it’s called “Public Relations”).

That’s what you remember. Now, thanks to the internet democratizign information somewhat, they don’t just get to feed us their “public relations” anymore. Now people can counter that shit, and people see them for what they really are - parasites.

It’s capitalism, baby. Welcome to the real world.

occultist8128 ,
@occultist8128@infosec.pub avatar

you either die a hero or live long enough to see your self become a villain

Thorny_Insight ,

Well first of all, I don’t personally think evil even exists.

Secondly, I don’t think these people are any more or less “evil” than the rest of us. They just operate on a much larger scale that affects many more people. If any of us normal folk would be put under equivalent level of scrutiny as these guys with journalists combing thru our every social media post and paparazzis following us around combined with the intention to dig up dirt and contribute to the negative narrative that sells better than a positive one, we’d all look like them. Most people don’t like Gates, Musk or Zuck because that’s the conclusion they’ve independently arrived at. It’s how they’ve been told to think by the media.

TheGrandNagus ,

I don’t know how someone could possibly say that evil doesn’t exist.

There are people out there that torture animals to death purely for fun, with no other purpose. There are people that wish genocide and debilitating diseases on a demographic they don’t like. There are people who abduct children, tie them down, rape them, then murder them.

The whole “there’s no good and bad, just what the media conditions you to believe” philosophy is bullshit, and screams of a 14 year old thinking they’re enlightened and philosophical, when in reality they’re just being a fuckwit.

Tehdastehdas , (edited )
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Big money / venture capitalists prefer to fund people of their kind: the ruthless. They also accept the spineless they can boss around. That’s gone on for centuries, so the good funders have been trampled and gone extinct.

asteriskeverything ,

In my opinion : The money is MUCH more lucrative now because of data mining. That’s it. That’s the real product being sold and because it isn’t encouraging innovation for innovation’s sake, but for a bottom line or goal that almost certainly depends on features that gather ad much data as possible to sell… etc etc

schnurrito ,

If you think Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were good for the world then I don’t know what to tell you.

boyi ,

Bill Gates during the early years, yes. But now, I thought he’s turned 180°.

MindTraveller ,

He’s always been a ruthless capitalist scumbag.

en.wikipedia.org/…/United_States_v._Microsoft_Cor….

en. wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Microsoft

reddit.com/…/the_sordid_history_of_microsoft_or_a…

TheGrandNagus ,

Bill Gates pressured the group at Oxford University not to open source their Covid vaccine, as it would undermine his investments in pharma companies.

(The team had originally secured funding from the UK gov with the intention of making it open source so that it would be more accessible to poorer countries.)

Imagine lobbying against that. Imagine knowingly making life saving medicine more expensive and less accessible, particularly to the poor.

The guy is a dick. He just spends money on good PR so people can remember him as a good guy.

FiniteBanjo ,

Businesses succeed by profiting. The most successful businesses of any time period are ones who maximise profits at all costs, including ethics.

There are a lot of arguments about more ethical businesses being the most viable longterm, but that sort of variable isn’t considered when the big businesses calculate their next move.

Almost none of the Tech Company leaders actually finished college, if somebody you know is calling them a genius then that person measures intelligence by profits. A very stupid person.

mitrosus ,

One word - capitalism. It favours master-slave model

Duamerthrax ,

The good ones retire or have important, but not the most profitable/public facing jobs.

The other Apple Steve, Steve Wozniak founded the EFF and was the tech guy at early Apple. Jobs was the business guy.

John Carmack is a controversial figure, but he’s actually the tech wiz kid the techbros dream they are. He seems to just be interested in pushing technology and had some choice words for Meta when he left. They should have let him have his axe to carry around.

linux2647 ,

*helped found. He provided some initial funding and served on the board, but he wasn’t a founder.

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not just tech, but leadership positions in general.

Short answer is that the traits you need to climb the ladder have significant overlap with the traits of legit psychopathy.

psychologytoday.com/…/the-disturbing-link-between…

Bacano ,

To add to this, there’s been evidence that as an individual accrues more wealth, their empathy response lessens over time.

My arm chair psychologist hypothesis is that: as the individual sees their quality of life increase, they look at other human beings in deplorable conditions, and their empathy response atrophies in order to avoid cognitive dissonance.

There’s a concept in the study of wealthy individuals which goes over their desire to hide impoverishment from their view.

AlecSadler ,

Any good books or other articles on this? I’d be legitimately interested.

The more money I make or the better off I am, I actually just end up feeling more guilty and giving more away. Frankly, one only needs so much, after that if you can improve the quality of life of those around you it makes everything better.

shotgun_crab ,

It’s better to assume good humans don’t exist, they just haven’t shown (to you) their bad side yet

roofuskit ,

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