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Reverendender ,

I did say goodbye to almost all DVDs, but I haven’t said goodbye to 4K Blu Ray discs, nor will I.

Thatuserguy ,

I am disappointed it feels like physical media is slowly going away though. It’s not only nice to have a physical collection in my opinion, but it directly supports the stuff you like, and you don’t have to deal with the bs that comes with digital “ownership” or the ever changing mess that are streaming services.

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Check out bandcamp. It’s for music, but you can stream tracks to give them a listen, and then buying them nets you a straight up file download in an audio format of your choice.

A world where you can both support the creator online, and receive something you get to keep in return, is possible.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

I hope we’ll get there for movies one day.

I just want to legally buy a DRM-free movie file containing multiple audio tracks and subtitles that I can slap in my Plex server and call it a day.

For the moment I’m doing it myself using my own Blu-Ray discs ¯_(ツ)_/¯

sramder ,
@sramder@lemmy.world avatar

Good news! You can pirate high quality blueray rips from the internet and since you already own a license to the content it’s not even a crime ;-)

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

That’s all well and good, but physical media is selling less and less as the average person moves to streaming.

Sooner or later, there will be a tipping point where media industry execs just stop selling physical media altogether to deny pirates a source, as the profits no longer outweigh the “downsides”.

Webripping is unlikely to stop for as long as streaming options exist, but then we’ll be stuck with low quality bitrates as enshittification ensures every penny is pinched when it comes to bandwidth.

High quality drm-free file downloads, available online, officially, would be ideal.

nekusoul ,
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

Considering the movie industry is currently at a point where it’s even punishing paying customers with low-quality 720p for daring to use the “wrong” browser, I don’t think the industry will figure out that there’s a market out there for high quality drm-free media anytime soon.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Finding a MKV with the audio tracks (english and french) as well as embedded subtitles for the languages I want is often more work than just ripping it myself.

sramder ,
@sramder@lemmy.world avatar

It’s definitely nice to have exactly the copy you want. Plus (and decidedly more on topic) you can rip any extras you want… although the naming scheme is a bit of a headache, that’s the part that really delights me.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

i feel like my 24TB of movies and tv is a physical copy. i can watch over 2500 movies or 30,000 episodes perfectly curated with extras, commercial free and can hand a copy to my kids on a single drive.

Thatuserguy ,

I don’t mind having downloaded digital copies. I have a Plex server of stuff too. But sometimes it’s just easier to just buy a disk rather than find a safe/working torrent just to get it digitally

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

i spose. theres lots of automation tools available now..

adding a title to sonarr and having it automatically downloaded, processed and added to my library seems a lot easier than driving to some store or ordering online where i would now i have to deal with 'disks'

MentalEdge ,
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There’s automation for doing it the legal way, too.

You can have a disk drive you just put a disk in and the media will automatically get imported all the way to whatever media server you prefer.

Combine that with disks being small enough to just show up through your mail-slot, and it can be pretty painless, as well.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

ha, but you skipped the part where you attempt to obtain a disk! the 'disk level' automation has existed for decades and is much more work than typing a name in a list.

not to mention, shit just isnt all on disk anymore.

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

And?

Don’t pretend like there are no parallels between trying to figure out a source for something that has long since stopped being seeded, and where to order a disk.

Or that putting in an online order is any more complex that making a request on ombi.

Or that there are no disks out there with content no one has ever ripped.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

youre seriously saying that working through the process of finding, purchasing, obtaining via shipping and then finally ripping the disk is 'just as easy' as typing a name into an automation system??

youre just flat out wrong. i have volumes of material that have never been on disk ever, and never will be

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

No. Where did you get that idea from? When did I say it was more better?

I said it could be convenient, in some cases the best option, and sometimes rarely the only option.

Find me an automated system that can find and download a copy of finnish TV series “Pakanamaan Kartta” that I have on my Jellyfin server, and we’ll talk.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

ahh i see

ive put shit on my torrenting list that were there for years before it popped up again was downloaded. and then, ive purchased home made vhs copies of shit that just doesnt exist anymore. so i get where youre comin from

n3cr0 ,

Discs mean too much hassle. I’d have to rip them all prior to storing the movies on my harddrives. Streaming subscriptions are convenient, but too limited and they don’t offer the best quality. IMHO, a download option is the best of both worlds.

MentalEdge ,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Bandcamp but for movies and TV would be amazing.

rottingleaf ,

With the role physical storage plays today, maybe consumer tape drives are a niche to be filled. Hard drives and optical discs die.

ArugulaZ ,

I haven’t given up on DVDs. Don’t assume we’ve all abandoned the disc format, because I’m certain many of us still use them.

Spaceinv8er ,

There’s literally dozens of us

VirtualOdour ,

Making toxic trash and wasting resources just to be a hipster, we’re all proud of you

IphtashuFitz ,

My wife and I just streamed a movie a few days ago. It had a ton of bloopers intermixed with the end credits.

mashbooq ,

Who’s said bye to DVDs?

aniki ,

I do miss the “making of” features that showed behind the scenes but as computers got better and movie execs got cheaper it wasn’t that interesting to just be like “well we did it with a green screen and then in post.” for fucking EVERYTHING…

It was much more fun watching pure artists at their craft making models and explosions and trick camera work for practical effects.

My theory is that practical effects takes a monumental amount of knowledge and skill and as those people got more and more expensive it was cheaper for the vultures to just hire college grad artists and grind them into the ground than pay the union salaries.

bobs_monkey ,

One thing I always appreciated about the Fast and Furious movies were their lean to practical effects, at least the earlier ones.

MeatsOfRage ,

I always loved the behind the scenes for Eternal Sunshine. Kate was so excited about the production, she’d be like “I had to crawl through this hole into a different set and do a quick costume change so we could do it all in one take.”

rottingleaf ,

My theory is that practical effects takes a monumental amount of knowledge and skill and as those people got more and more expensive it was cheaper for the vultures to just hire college grad artists and grind them into the ground than pay the union salaries.

I think it takes the same amount of knowledge to do well.

But cheap CGI looks better than cheap practical effects. Or it can be made cheaper. Maybe both.

Anyway, even Empire Strikes Back involved using computers for some work. Yep, late 70s’ computers.

It’s not one or another with these.

I think the reason for the drop in quality is moviemaking becoming corporate. Not “owned by corporations” kind of corporate (obviously that too), but “no way to get in without acquaintances or patrons inside” corporate, nepotism.

essell ,

I never cared for “extras” anyway.

Just let me enjoy the film.

Entertainmeonly ,

Sometimes there are genuine jewels in there. Talledaga Nights directors commentary is absolute gold. Might be as funny as the movie itself. Adds a layer of lore you didn’t know you needed.

essell ,

Fair, I’m not convinced I do need that layer.

I guess if people are into films as a topic, or even a specific film, then that’d be interesting.

Not for me.

originalucifer ,
@originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

and how much could it possible freakin cost?? a single audio track with a buncha guys sitting around speaking unscripted?

sbv ,

I feel the same way. I like the streaming/VCR experience of hitting play and seeing the media. Those old DVD menus that wanted me to mess with extras sucked.

everett ,

99% of DVD menus would have the “Play movie” pre-selected, letting you activate it with a single press of the Play or Select button.

auzy ,

You missed some crappy menu at the beginning that possibly spoiled the movie.

I love watching movies without knowing nothing about it. Like the menu, I simply saw the coverart.

Also why I don’t go cinema anymore. They often spoil a lot in ads

SouthFresh ,
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It seems like the extras were for a specific limited demographic. When the costs of producing the extra content, and sales of the physical media are taken into account… I would guess that when a no-extras vs extras version of the same movie was available, the one that was cheaper with less content sold more.

I enjoyed the extra features on a handful of shows, but I think this is a smaller sales-base than the author realizes.

finley ,

Have all these features still in my plex library

PiJiNWiNg ,

Ditto

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