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ulkesh ,
@ulkesh@lemmy.world avatar

Well that looks like pure garbage. Glad I no longer have to deal with it.

pyre ,

i guess they couldn’t find a way to not make it look fucking awful

Anti_Iridium , (edited )

I was just pissed at my PC for “Update and Shutdown” and returning to my PC with it at the lock screen. I think this might be enough for me to leave windows.

Edit: on my gaming PC. Everything else is already KDE Neon or ubuntu.

vanderbilt ,
@vanderbilt@lemmy.world avatar

Fam, jail that windows into a gaming partition and either get a Mac if you aren’t a computer nerd or use Ubuntu if you are. My computing quality of life improved greatly when I didn’t have to use Windows anymore.

untorquer ,

Who even plays games that don’t run well on Linux/proton these days?

You don’t need to be a nerd. Just need to watch a vid or follow ubiquitous guide on how to partition a disk or install second disk. Installing and running Linux is easier than windows these days with most common distros.

The learning curve is easier than the one for each windows update too. At least for plasma, i would assume gnome too.

Still, some enterprise class software only running on windows is a reasonable excuse(for the user). Also not everyone has the drive space or can afford extra hardware. Obligatory privilege check ig.

TheGrandNagus ,

Unfortunately, a sizable amount of multiplayer games. And if you play with friends, that can be an issue.

Thankfully I don’t play any games with problematic anti-cheat, because I have no friends 🧠

Lumisal ,

Modded games too.

Linux is getting there, but it’s really only great for single player games now. That’s what I use it for

MrScottyTay ,

I play games that don’t play well with Linux. Sims 1 & 2 are just straight up broken.

So my Linux PC is actually my WinXP retro gaming PC but Linux is dualbooted for when I want to do more modern stuff on it.

untorquer ,

XP is a fine OS

MrScottyTay ,

Only issue is lack of V Sync for 2d games and the desktop. Which is why it would’ve been nice for Linux to be able to run the Sims 1

lud ,

Mac has a terrible UI though.

selokichtli ,

Oh, dang. Laughing in KDE Plasma.

untorquer ,

I die every workday when I have to boot in windows because our CAD doesn’t work on Linux. On the other hand it makes switching back to plasma at the end of work feel as sweet as day 1! I don’t feel like I’ll ever take it for granted.

vanderbilt ,
@vanderbilt@lemmy.world avatar

Uggggh fucking whhhhhy.

I don’t even use Windows and I have to put up with this shit. My parents are going to call and ask how and why they have to use this new thing.

What was gained from this exercise in self-lobotomization? Pick a design language and stick to it.

Stirring the pot like this is driving away even enterprise users. My last org only approved Macs and Chromebooks because we didn’t want to deal with the headaches that windows brought. Imagine saying that statement 10 years ago!

skulblaka ,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

If there aren’t any visible changes then the lusers won’t upgrade. “Why did I have to switch to Windows 11 if nothing changed??” etc.

By shuffling the look and feel of the product constantly they can give an impression of actual upgrades being made. The system looks different after your update, after all.

Microsoft already knows that anyone with technical knowledge is looking to dodge this update, they don’t need to make the regular users want to dodge it too.

smb ,

not the home screem

if had to use windows at home i’ld screem too.

not too surprised they didn’t change that.

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

No wonder why alot of people are on windows 10

spyd3r ,
@spyd3r@sh.itjust.works avatar

Windows 10 IOT Enterprise LTSC until the heat death of the universe

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

Oh yeah it’s for business

jbk ,

Holy hell, does every Windows 11 device require touch-based input soon or what?

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Looks like they still haven’t learned their lesson from the Windows 8 days…

lud ,

I have never actually used windows 8 but I was on a Win 2012 R2 server earlier today and it’s much much worse than Windows 11. So they have learned something at least.

PalmTreeIsBestTree ,

Same here. I skipped that version of Windows. To me it felt like they simply turned 7 into a tablet focused piece of shit.

Lucidlethargy ,

Looks like a welcome change, assuming you can edit everything fully.

JigglypuffSeenFromAbove ,
@JigglypuffSeenFromAbove@lemmy.world avatar

Bold of you to say something nice about Windows here on Lemmy, of all places.

avatar ,

Bold of you to use the word bold

I need to start doing that

Redex68 ,

Interesting design but I’ve literally never used the start menu for the past 5 years I think. I only ever press the windows key and then type the name of the app I need.

whome ,

Not even that,I have like 5-10 programs I use regularly and I have those pinned. Only knew they changed that thing due to postings here on Lemmy.

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

PowerToys Run > Start Menu

To my surprise, I even recently discovered that PowerToys is open-source, even though it’s made by Microsoft. It really drastically improves the terrible Windows experience. Thankfully I don’t have to use Windows at all anymore, but if I had to, PowerToys would be the first thing I’d install.

On Linux (KDE) I enjoy using KRunner

Redex68 ,

I have power toys insalled and I love it for a lot of its features, but I never got used to using the run menu.

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

There are other good (open-source) options like Flow Launcher (GitHub)

stebator ,

Win 11 still looks ugly.

My main desktop OS in Linux. But on my Windows 11 VM I’m using StartAllBack app. It makes start menu, task panel to be normal again, like it was in Windows 7 and XP.

Burn_The_Right ,

I’m using StartAllBack app.

God, I hope MS doesn’t find out this exists. I’m sure they’d find some way to break it on an update.

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This reminds me of the time when they broke the ability to disable the god damn Windows 10 lockscreen from the registry. Like why??? What the actual fuck is the reasoning behind this microsoft?!?!? You’re actually paying people to put in the work and make the user experience worse for absolutely no reason, while not even benefitting from it in any way??? This is one of the reasons I will never touch any of this proprietary Microsoft garbage again and strictly use FOSS software, which actually respects the user.

Eheran ,

Respects the user, good one!

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

?

Eheran ,

There are plenty of open source projects that disrespect the user base. Sorry if me having to laugh did not convey that message.

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

What makes you think so? Is there something I completely missed? From my experience in FOSS I’d say 95-98% of software actually works in favor of the user. With proprietary software it might be 5-15% at best. Can you name any examples that prove your claims?

Eheran ,

“User” has different meanings or types. FOSS is mostly for power users. Random plebs can get lost, so to speak, it is not for them.

This discussion here sums it up fairly good. Here as well.

Stowaway ,

Clearly they learned nothing from windows 8…

BurnSquirrel ,

linux folks just watching

todd_bonzalez ,
@todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee avatar

I love how, as a Linux user, Windows never adds anything that makes me regret leaving.

CheeseNoodle ,

How’s Linux doing in regards to Nvidia graphics cards these days? I was planning to switch to linux for my next build but wanted to keep my current GPU since its not that old and still solid.

infergo ,

A lot better these days. While I still don’t like nvidia, I think they’re generally moving in the right direction.

Kualk ,

I recommend that you boot your distro of choice from USB and see if it works for you.

You might be surprised.

If it doesn’t work with one, try a different distribution.

I’ve used Linux with nvidia cards and didn’t have issues, but I am not very demanding.

Horsey ,
@Horsey@lemmy.world avatar

Nvidia cards are supported with the proprietary drivers; the game I play (Stepmania, OutFox) historically was without artifacts on nvidia systems. Nowadays, Wayland is moving forward, and nvidia is just behind on supporting it compared to AMD. According to this thread below you should be fine as long as you use nvidia drivers from version 560+.

reddit.com/…/wayland_on_nvidia_do_they_play_well_…

MyRobotShitsBolts ,

I run fedora 40 on a desktop and laptop and it’s perfect. Installing the drivers through rpm fusion was dead easy, 3 commands in the terminal and done. Wayland is FINALLY there. Fractional scaling is there. Steam games launch fine. I only miss a handful of programs I can’t live without. Affinity software suite and a few games that use EAC are the only reason I keep a windows partition installed. After windows 11 bloatware and lag and intrusive ads and useless AI crap Linux is now home for me. Install and dual boot, you will find yourself more and more running in linux because it works great and privacy is nice.

skulblaka ,
@skulblaka@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ve got a GTX 1080 Ti and after a couple hours of finagling on initial install of Linux Mint I haven’t had any trouble at all. Nvidia ships some proprietary drivers you can use instead of the unofficial open source ones and nvidia-driver-535 has been getting it done no problem.

Other GPU models I can’t speak for, as I don’t own them, and I see some history of folks having trouble with Nvidia. But I got mine done with barely a hitch.

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The proprietary drivers got much better, they’re really usable without any noticeable issues. There’s also an effort to get solid open-source drivers, but these don’t work with older cards yet.

histic ,

Personally I’ve been using a Nvidia card on Linux for 4 ish years now originally on a 970 which had a few problems but really only with Wayland, x was flawless now I have a 3070 which I haven’t had any issues on Wayland with the newer drivers and id say I taxed both fairly hard between gaming and blender

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Works fine.

todd_bonzalez ,
@todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee avatar

Playing CP2077 and BG3 every day no problem, and running AI models like a champ.

Unless you’re living several years in the past, Nvidia drivers aren’t much of an issue anymore.

FiskFisk33 ,

pretty great, i would avoid wayland though, there still seems to be nvidia problems there.

lightnegative ,

The irony is, unlike the old days - actually AMD (ATI) is recommend for Linux now because the drivers are better.

This is in stark contrast to the fglrx days where that driver was an absolute abortion and NVIDIA was really the only usable one.

Not sure when you started your Linux journey but I avoided AMD for years based on that.

Now the tables have turned but I didn’t realize until after I purchased my NUC which has NVIDIA RTX graphics. So I guess I’m stuck on NVIDIA for the foreseeable future

exanime ,

Indeed, that is incredible.

I left Linux 13 years ago and to this day, I have never seen anything to temp me back. And in fairness, they have improved some things in that time

Exact same experience as cutting cable… Can’t even remember why I hesitated so long

werefreeatlast ,

Uhhh! Ahhh! How about the mouse pointer? Make it AI! Nobody likes the little ⬆️ arrow following all the stupid motions. Plus when you loose it and you had wanted to click somewhere, where the fuck is it? Make it jiggle around! That’s it! A jiggling mouse pointer that is composed of the two letters AI and jiggles around randomly is surely something everyone could use!

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