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Fiivemacs ,

I like to take the sticks and stones approach.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

It’s bullshit, though - words do hurt.

Fiivemacs ,

Probably why I’ve hardened myself to the point where I’m basically emotionless. Society does not ever play nice.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

Words hurt exactly as much as you care what whoever said them thinks of you. This leaves u with 2 cases.

Case 1: your friend whoes opinion u value is saying something hurtful, ask em to stop if they dont u dont have to be there friend or value their opinion.

Case 2: its some rando whoes opinion you dont value. The only reason u would care what they think is if your insecure.

So what is it? Words dont hurt? Your friends arnt actually ur friends? Or are u simply insecure?

Arkouda ,

You should work on your spelling and grammar before acting like an authority.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

Never claimed to be an authority. And being a grammar Nazi isnt an argument based in logic, its sidestepping any substance for the sole purpise of being a right old cunt.

Arkouda ,

Never claimed to be an authority. And being a grammar Nazi isnt an argument based in logic, its sidestepping any substance for the sole purpise of being a right old cunt.

It is not “being a grammar nazi” to point out your complete lack of ability regarding the English language. That is what is commonly known as an “observation”. If you want to be observed differently change what is observable.

As an example, you observe me as “a right old cunt” and I am doing nothing to change that observation. In fact, it was my intent from go to be observed that way by you.

Thank the gods you rolled higher in perception than you did in intelligence or you may not have caught on so quickly.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar
samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

You’re forgetting about words that come from society as a whole. Those are a hell of a lot harder to disregard than ones made by an individual.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

Society is made up of individuals. What difference does the number of people make 0 fucks times any things is still 0 fucks.

technocrit ,

Society used to say that slavery was great. It made a huge difference to the slaves and those who profited from slavery.

But go ahead so brave with your 0 fucks. Society is made up of individuals!!! Genius brain.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

What are u arguing here? That we should listen to society or that we shouldn’t? If we do then we have ur point of society loved slavery. If we don’t then we are back to not giving a fuck what society thinks hence what they say can’t hurt you.

Have ur fuckibg cake or eat it not both.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Spoken like a person in a position of privilege.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

What cos i was born into a country with socialised healthcare. Or cos u just wanna cry about boohoo my lifes so sad I need to blame everyone else for it.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

You’re such an asshole, it’s comical. Like you just go out of your way to be hateful for no real reason.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

Asshole yes. Hateful definatly not. nobody ever said the truth was pretty. I would say pull urself up by ur bootstraps but by the sounds of it ur American and ur systems so fucked I doubt u could afford bootstraps.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

While that is a great approach when the words have no weight, ignoring systemic discrimination that perpetuates actual harm is counterproductive.

When a cop calls all black people thugs and criminals, it is something that shouldn’t be ignored. When a football team is named the Washington [slurs] it perpetuates racism against native americans in a way that has actual impacts on people. When schools are named after traitors it shows society is fine with elevating their views and ideals.

The importance of words depends on context and blowing off systemic racism permanently installed in public view because they are ‘just words’ ignores the real harm that those words have. Street signs with derogatory slurs against native people who were the victims of genocide is the equivalent of having slurs used hy the nazis on street signs.

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

There are words and then there are words backed by the state’s monopoly on violence. It’s harder to move forward when these old ugly names keep things rooted in the past.

Fiivemacs ,

Yeh, I can acknowledge the difference tbh

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

Name a single word that is backed by the states monopoly on violence.

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Read the article, there are several

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

Go ahead and remove or change one of these street signs without government approval, and you'll find the violence real quick.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

Physically removing a sign doeant sound like words to me.

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org avatar

What's on the sign then, banana pudding?

technocrit ,

Just one? Washington.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee avatar

The name the guy both are fucking dead? I dont see how thats backed with state violence?

Its not like i can summon the FBI into ur house by chanting Washington 6 times in the mirror. And ur good old first amendment give me the right to call him a cunt. I dont see any state backed violence here.

thurstylark ,

My city recently renamed a street after Nelson Hackett, who was a local slave, but more notably, was the first and only escaped slave to have made it to Canada, and then be extradited back to the US. The road was previously named after Archibald Yell, the governor of Arkansas at the time, who wrote the extradition order. Canadian laws at the time forced the government to respect the extradition, but they found this situation so distasteful that they immediately changed the law to basically make Canada a safe haven for escaped slaves.

Lots of locals didn’t know who Archibald Yell was, but now they do, and the road is now named after the slave whose case laid the groundwork for the Underground Railroad because of the governor’s actions.

Not just a correction to the person who should really be celebrated, but also an S-tier snub, if you ask me.

neblem ,

Cool to see that the app is just a nice wrapper to query OSM data and not using yet another dumb silo. Its also just a webapp and not a native app spying on your data. en.stnameslab.com/american-search-app/ is the app.

I wonder if this would make sense as a mapcomplete.org layer

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