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RangerJosie ,

Step 1. Fire Boeing.

Step 2. Fucking FUND NASA.

Step 3. NASA builds space stuff that works.

jeffw OP ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

To be fair, some work has always been outsourced.

Like the o rings…

BrundleFly2077 ,

Dark 😮

AlexanderESmith ,

Damn man... Fuckin'... oof...

aeronmelon ,

I like my humor like I like my NASA space vehicles - outsourced to the lowest bidder.

Wanderer ,

NASA contracting stuff to space X has probably be the most amazing and sound financial decision they have made.

People on this website are so biased because Elon runs it but he genuinely built one of the most amazing companies in the world. Government including the US are miles behind them and struggling to play catch up and they are only trying because Space X has become so much better than them they have to.

SkaveRat ,

It’s arguably not even him that it really running it

Wanderer ,

Don’t care. He built the company, he’s the face of it. People hate the company and live in a dreamland where it’s failing because they want what Elon owns to be shit.

It isn’t and they are wrong because they can’t see past their bias.

vanontom ,
@vanontom@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, Musk has made people hate anything he’s involved in, or that enriches him. It’s only natural; Actions have consequences. He’s a severely mentally ill billionaire, increasingly detached from reality. And now his politics and disinformation are a danger to millions of people. If SpaceX or Tesla wants to feel the love, they know what to do. Until then, I can only assume they accept the consequences.

Wanderer ,

I’m not sure how peoples delusions are a logical outcome.

If I don’t like America that doesn’t mean it suddenly isn’t the richest country in the world just because I don’t like it.

People really need to understand their bias, wanting SpaceX to be shit doesn’t make it so. That’s what we are talking about. Nothing else. SpaceX rockets aren’t powered on feels.

vinyl ,

From what I see Gwynne Shotwell is the one that’s really doing the heavy lifting in the company.

Wanderer ,

Seriously what is going on here?

Okay? If that is or isn’t correct what did I say that was wrong?

Are you saying. People think Spacex is a failing company (when it isn’t) because of Shotwell?

vinyl ,

I haven’t said anything about it being a failing company, I’m just introducing some much needed information because of how much glazing I’ve noticed.

Wanderer ,

Glazing for what? How?

echodot ,

They’re just adding context. Calm down you have a real victim complex going on, and it’s boring.

Cocodapuf ,

It’s not a complex, he’s reacting to the downvotes (that do seem unfair).

SynopsisTantilize ,

Lol you were downvoted, fuck these people. They’re children.

Hacksaw ,

Space x doesn’t work thanks to Musk. It works DESPITE him, and it requires careful management.

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/adb821e4-0199-451c-b54e-664c58041d31.png

JohnDClay ,

Seems like he’s more involved with starship now than falcon or dragon.

mbirth ,

Step 4. NASA builds planes that work (on the side).

echodot ,

If BASA build aircraft they would have to throw it all away at the end of the flight.

Need better funding but they absolutely shouldn’t be building spacecraft, they are too scared of getting yelled at to innovate, and innovation is required.

Plastic_Ramses ,

Well… except for those times it didn’t.

Id argue that nasa is responsible for more deaths than the privately owned companies attempting the same thing.

anindefinitearticle ,

s/Fire/Nationalize/

Australis13 ,

The crew should come back on the Dragon and Boeing be required to solve the problems and carry out another test flight. It is unacceptable that Boeing wants to bring the astronauts back without understanding some of the failures on the Starliner.

YourAvgMortal ,

I’m sure they understand the problems, and they understand that solving them would eat into their profits

cmnybo ,

Another test flight will be a bit of a problem. There are no spare Atlas V rockets. They will either have to convince Amazon to give up one of theirs or they will have to launch one of the missions on Vulcan Centaur, which is not currently crew rated.

mox ,

The question facing NASA’s leadership today? Should the two astronauts return to Earth from the International Space Station in Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft, with its history of thruster failures and helium leaks, or should they come home on a SpaceX Dragon capsule?

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

The question facing NASA’s leadership today? Should the two astronauts return to Earth…

“Alright, just hear me out…” -Boeing

0x0 ,

The lives of two government employees are in the balance, and taxpayers paid Boeing for most of the Starliner spacecraft’s development costs.

Money money money…

HejMedDig ,

In this particular situation, if Boeing says it’s safe, I would be inclined to trust them, because if they make the return happen, and it fails, Boeing is done fore. As a crew member though, I would pass for sure and wait for a Dragon

riodoro1 ,

How many people died because boeing made shitty planes and didn’t train their crew properly?

Is boeing done for?

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

They get one last chance! If they kill these astronauts this time, we’ll be really, really mad like for real!

cordlesslamp ,

Don’t worry, we have enough tax payer’s money to bail them out if anything goes wrong.

/s

HejMedDig ,

I think messing up on NASA projects will hurt a company way more. Of course aviation is supposed to be safe, but even the 737 Max has flown thousands of hours. Comparing how many people that have flown on them, versus how many that have been hurt/killed, is still a small number, which is still is supposed to be zero of course.

Traversing space, a pinnacle of engineering, is quite another level of danger, and if you insist on your product being functional and safe, and then kills two astronauts, would cause a whole different level of backlash

0x0 ,

Three Starliner mission managers had key roles on Columbia’s ill-fated final flight.

I was gonna take issue with that statement until i read this. Causality does seem more probable.

Got_Bent , (edited )

Shitty Boeing aside, how are they eating up there? I don’t know anything about space station food logistics, but if a planned week has turned into ten weeks, surely there must be a resource strain.

Edit: Google search says they can regularly send up unmanned supply ships.

Mythnubb ,

I was curious about this same thing.

mihnt ,

Don’t they have their own version of MREs they use for situations like this?

Agent641 ,

They eat whichever astronaut dies first.

Just don’t question the cause of death, because it will be blunt force trauma

PrincessLeiasCat ,

This is an excellent article. I’m glad they took time to go into the history of these folks.

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