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turkalino ,
@turkalino@lemmy.yachts avatar

Wasn’t able to find an answer to my main question in the article: will this kill uBlock Origin’s ability to block YouTube ads?

LazaroFilm ,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

Wether it is or not, the sheer fact that they’re pulling those moves made me move away from Chrome.

yesman ,

will this kill uBlock Origin’s ability to block YouTube ads?

that’s it’s raison d’etre

BakedCatboy , (edited )

Edit: of course the below only applies to chrome and possibly chrome derivatives - FF is keeping MV2

It’ll make it a lot more likely that YouTube ads will get through because MV3 limits the block list size to a fraction of the size normally used by uBO and also disallows external/live updates to the block list, instead forcing the rules to be baked into the extension. Meaning an update to the blocking rules could take a week of extension review time to go through. I heard that the YouTube ad blocking rules can update multiple times a day so this would easily allow Google to update their ad code before approving updates to ad blockers, allowing them to always stay ahead.

So it might not outright break it, but some rules will have to be left off so it seems like it’ll be a dice roll if you get an ad where the blocking rule had to be left off to fit Google’s block list limit or the rule you have is stale because it took a couple weeks for the extension update to be approved on the extension store.

The feature of MV3 that enables these changes is that in MV3, the extension is handing over the complete blocklist to chrome, which does the blocking and gets to put limits on the blocklist. In MV2, the extension is given a direct hook to do the blocking itself, so it can have an unlimited block list size and can source the blocklist from anywhere. Think of it kind of like the difference between letting a graduation speaker speak off the cuff vs the school reviewing the speech beforehand and having their finger on the mic switch in case you wander off script. So the new system technically can be more secure and performant because the blocklist is reviewed as part of the extension and because poorly written blocker code can’t slow you down (only Google’s optimized logic is allowed to run) but it only works if they don’t impose limits lower than what effective ad blockers need (ie updating frequently like daily and allowing a large blocklist). Plus uBo is written really well for resource usage so it’s getting crippled even though it’s a shining example of an effective ad blocker.

Plus there are even more limitations like certain types of advanced rules that all I understand is just needed for certain sites that are tricky., but those rules aren’t supported in MV3. The uBo GitHub wiki has some information about this: github.com/…/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ)…-capabilities-which-cant-be-ported-to-mv3)

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

On chrome, probably.

On any non-chrome browser, nope.

4am ,

I think Firefox and Safari are the only ones. (Don’t come at me with that Brave bulllshit)

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

LibreWolf too, although that is a fork of Firefox.

refurbishedrefurbisher ,

Ladybird is an up and coming independent web browser. There’s also the Servo browser engine project in the works.

lemmeBe ,

Thanks for the heads up about Ladybird. Nice to hear about new things on the horizon.

grue ,

uBlock Origin has already been letting some Youtube ads through on my Chromebook in the last few days. (Still been working perfectly on Firefox on my desktop, though.)

It’s getting real close to time to finally bite the bullet and nuke ChromeOS in favor of normal Linux.

800XL ,

Google: “We mean it this time, guys.”

hddsx ,

They’ve retreated from their privacy sandbox ad proposal, but V3 is staying…

Hm…

Tregetour ,
@Tregetour@lemdro.id avatar

2035 2028: Browser content is piped to a local AI that filters junk and noise then feeds the result back into the browser for screen display

Meron35 ,

2028 2023: Browser content is piped to an AI that filters junk and noise then feeds the result back into the browser for screen display

GPT-AdBlocker for Chrome promises to block all ads, including ads in videos - gHacks Tech News - ghacks.net/…/gpt-adblocker-for-chrome-promises-to…

DroopyAtmosphere ,

How many times can they cry wolf?

RagingSnarkasm ,

Hey Chrome, you remember when Internet Explorer had a lock on the installed user base? Do you remember when they shit all over their users to the point they were screaming for anything to replace it?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

TrickDacy ,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

The chrome simps got their excuses on deck for continuing to use that bullshit

werefreeatlast ,

They can shovel it. It’s no longer on my computer.

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

I hope this convinces project managers and OEMs to stop using embedded chrome too. Would kill google’s market share quicker and keep HTTP a cleaner standard instead of a walled of garden of google tech.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Fun story, I tried Vivaldi a few weeks ago. It’s based on chrome. And it got really sluggish and I didn’t understand what was going on. It was so much slower than Firefox at rendering pages too!

Went back to Firefox with a new appriciation for how good it is.

They have nothing like container tabs either and you are supposed to use entire browser profiles to isolate cookies. It’s just ridiculous.

DudeImMacGyver ,
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

K

uninstalla Chrome and continues to avoid malware infested ads with Firefox

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