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Juice ,

I will stop using a mouse and get really good with hotkeys rather than pay a subscription.

a2part2 ,

Tiling window managers and vim keybindings are your friends

thearch ,

What the actual ever living fuck happened in his brain to create this thought

PersonalDevKit ,

Endless meetings all focused around creating value for shareholders at any expense

cmrn ,

I’d be more willing to pay Logitech for a subscription to never have to touch their software again.

blackwateropeth ,

Ah yes, the industry first MaaS. What will they think of next. nuclear facepalm

UselesslyBrisk ,

logitech’s software is trash across the board.

Have their MX keyboard and their logi+ software regualrly craps out making the function/special keys unusable until i log off/back on. Sometimes WHILE im using the keyboard.

And their gaming stuff is no better. Many times just having the logitech g suite software running means my mic will randomly stop working, if i remove the software the headset runs fine.

ichbinjasokreativ ,

I use their G Hub to remap my mouse buttons and sometimes my config just gets ignored and I increase mouse sensibility instead of pausing the music

SaharaMaleikuhm ,

Give autohotkey a try instead. I was able to get rid of the Logitech software because of it.

Lev_Astov ,
@Lev_Astov@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve found that’s because their mice will go to sleep and upon first waking they’ll briefly use an onboard profile before switching to the G Hub profile. This is also why it might feel like it has a different DPI briefly or different light settings for just a flash. The only way to fix this is to use their totally separate OnboardMemoryManager software to change the onboard settings while running G Hub. It solved this issue for me and it’s infuriating that this isn’t built into G Hub…

Binette ,

Lmao what happens if you don’t pay?

And009 ,

Oh Deere!

bitchkat ,

Well that means I need to find a new mouse because of them even suggesting this crap. I really like my MX Master. Beefy with some weight.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Or just buy 4-5 now and last the next decade.

Shame there’s no a mechanical mouse movement to create an industry of high quality alternatives we can buy.

ZILtoid1991 ,

There’s some OSH designs for trackballs and “ultra light weight gaming mice”, not much for the more standard stuff, just like with most mech keyboards, which are primarily for enthusiasts, often with “deck flex” for a “softer bottom out feel” (and shorter life).

absGeekNZ ,
@absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz avatar

But the Ploopy mouse already exists.

01189998819991197253 ,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

That’s a $130 (US, I’m assuming) mouse. Looks dope, though

absGeekNZ ,
@absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz avatar

$100 - $135 Canada style monies. +$27 for shipping to New Zealand. So up $160CAD…very expensive for a mouse, but not as crazy as some gaming mice.

01189998819991197253 ,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

Low supply / small batch, with open source software and (it seems) hardware. Logitech MX Master 3S is $140 CAD, and it’s fully closed source. I’d say their price is in line with these types of premium mice. BUT it’s too much for mouse anyway lol

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

The site apparently doesn’t resizes images in a smart way.

https://quokk.au/pictrs/image/d30c491d-1fc8-4b56-988d-908ac8ee0a1a.jpeg

Or these mice need a diet.

tiredofsametab ,

I will learn to build a mouse and write my own damn drivers first.

captain_aggravated ,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I actually know how to do this off the top of my head and you don’t need to write a driver for it, you could simply use an Arduino Micro.

The Micro (and other Arduino-compatible Atmel ATMEGA 32u4-based microcontrollers) have native USB support so they have a library you can import that will work with generic USB keyboard/mouse drivers. It would be up to you to rig up the sensors and buttons, make a case and write a little firmware.

tiredofsametab ,

Nice! Thank you!

PenisDuckCuck9001 , (edited )

If it gets to the point where we have to pay a monthly fee to use computer peripherals I’m going to dedicate all my spare time to making open source alternatives. Become ungovernable.

Jolteon ,

There’s already plenty of open source alternatives. Mouse drivers are relatively simple.

rustydomino ,
@rustydomino@lemmy.world avatar

lmfao. At one point the Logitech mouse driver for MacOS was a 1GB download. They want me to pay for that shit??? gtfo.

Crafter72 ,
@Crafter72@lemmy.world avatar

Oh no, anyway. Glad I never touched their peripherals because they’re overpriced like Razer and other bigger companies.

clicking away with my knockoff OEM reliable gaming mouse

Imo software update for Mouse is not that necessarily crucial unless you had nasty bugs like Cooler Master during launching their mouse. My endgame mouse is MM712 and happy with that👍🏼

Also you can build your own mouse though iirc may be harder than building DIY keyboard (sc: built custom macropad for college project).

lobut ,

I was intrigued by the idea, I was like, “oooh a modular mouse where it could be a trackball or vertical mouse or multi-sensor components with obvious replacement parts that they’d sell to make it easy on repair”!

Then I saw software and I’m like wtf? do I look like I need something else to Crowdstrike me? “Can’t work today boss, credit card didn’t update my mouse subscription hang on…”

Curious_Canid ,
@Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca avatar

Company that makes Mice: Hey, what if we actually built a good mouse!

Toribor ,
@Toribor@corndog.social avatar

Side question since this concept is obviously rent seeking… Why is there not a market for premium custom mice like there are for keyboards?

All the mice over the ~$80 range seem to only be gamer mice or focus on adding more and more buttons. Why aren’t there options that are customizable or more premium?

I get that no one wants a solid machined aluminum mouse but surely there is something more premium than adding more buttons.

Magister ,
@Magister@lemmy.world avatar

It’s trackball that are premium in fact

Cuttlefish1111 ,

This concept should be expanded to every industry so the idea itself is abandoned and the thought of subscription shows its poor quality or subscription based

fhqwgads , (edited )

Custom keyboards took off because of mechanical switches. Back in the day people wanted mechanical switches because they last longer than membrane ones, and so you wound up with a bunch of companies producing relatively easy to manufacture mechanical switches. Those switches all felt and sounded a little different so you got people who wanted a specific feel and sound and it grew from there.

There hasn’t really been the same push with mice because even really cheap ones work really well. Optical sensors are way harder to produce than key switches, and while there are a few different ones on the market other than dpi and polling rate they kind of all act the same - it kind of either tracks right or it doesn’t. There’s no differentiation unlike switches that are “tactile” or “linear” or “scratchy”. And because of size restrictions you can’t really have the same kind of switches as keyboards use for the buttons. And unlike the really niche keyboard people who do their own PCB and machine their own case, making a good mouse on your own from scratch is way more difficult. They’re weird shaped and it’s much more difficult to change things like optical tracking algorithms compared to macros on a 40% keyboard. You can do a run of 100 super niche keyboards and make it work, but just the injection molds for one mouse mean you need to make 10000, which stops it being a project and makes it a business.

There are premium mice manufacturers, but in general they either are going super light, super ergonomic, or super functional - and honestly they have a hard time competing with a company like Logitech that can produce really similar features for a fraction of the cost and have a decent reputation to boot.

absGeekNZ , (edited )
@absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz avatar

But the Ploopy mouse already exists.

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