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Techmaster ,

I wish that shitty Diablo patches would result in me getting my money back.

MystikIncarnate ,

They also recently admitted to loading other players entire profile including their stash, and other content that they “have” which you would have zero access to, into memory on your PC, anytime that user loads into your zone.

It’s why you can’t have more than four stash tabs, because other people’s computers would be negatively affected.

My developer friend tersely summarized this as “lazy programming”. To put it as briefly as I can, in his view, it’s likely that all of your stuff including inventory and stash are all part of your character object/class/whatever, so to load other players, your client has to load that character object, complete with everything they’re carrying and everything that they have in their stash.

IMO, this means you can mod the game to dump a list of everything another player is carrying/holding in their stash.

Seems like they have minimal, if any, separation between clients, other clients, and by proxy, their servers. So rules need to be enforced at the client level, so the other users and the servers can stay protected.

avater ,
@avater@lemmy.world avatar

biggest misbuy of this year…damn my friends who wanted to play this, because it is boring, soulless and lame as fuck.

my screensaver is more challenging than this …

sentient_loom ,
@sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works avatar

Is every major tech company a tyrannical bitch that hates their customers?

Yes.

Mdotaut801 ,

I’m moving to POE.

HurlingDurling ,

Point Of Exit?

jadedwench ,

Path of Exile. Great game if you are into the genre.

MystikIncarnate ,

Power over Ethernet.

Zweibel ,

PoE is a great game, and there are many reasons I find it more fun than D4. Seriously, I find myself leveling multiple characters each league, which means running through the campaign each time. Can’t really force myself to do that in D4.

Unfortunately, you will get banned for modding PoE as well. Hell, admitting (in game or on forums) to using any sort of method of flask automation can get your account permanently closed.

Ogmios ,

They super fucking salty that computers are not ushering in their utopian self-contained artificial society as they expected.

Orionza ,
@Orionza@lemmy.world avatar

Modding (as long as it’s not hacker modding in like RDR2) makes the game personalized and so much more fun.

I wanted to play Diablo but Blizzard support hasn’t taken off the keyfob authenticator off my account, despite repeated requests. So I guess I don’t get to play anyway. Now I really feel like I’m not missing out on anything.

GONADS125 ,

OOTL on RDR2. What’s going on, just scummy hackers?

Tilgare ,

I feel like people are acting a little TOO hurt in this thread… debate on games being moddable vs not aside, this was obviously always going to be the case for a live service game like D4. D3 was (but wasn’t really) a live service game and also was not moddable at all, even after the auction house got canned. Same for Overwatch 1, I’m quite sure OW2 as well. There should be no surprise here, and cheaters absolutely knew this would come.

Moc ,

For A$120 asking price, and an almost immediate cash grab/season pass, I should be able to mod whatever the fuck I like thank you very much

Tilgare ,

Hey, I support you voting with your wallet then, and you should hold out for Starfield and GTA VI. Maybe play some Cyberpunk or NMS. Hogwarts Legacy too.

But if moddability is a prerequisite for you on full price games, you’re probably due a lot of disappointment going forward as games continue to shift to GAS models (and honestly, if you’ve been beating this drum you’ve been real disappointed for the last decade anyways). Mods are a great experience for a single player game, but invite rampant cheating in competitive multiplayer games that need to be fair and balanced for all players. You’re just not going to see moddability in multiplayer games. And one certainly doesn’t have a right to interrupt or destroy other players’ enjoyment of a game because they want to cheat.

To be clear, I am not arguing against modding being allowed in games. I ran a VERY heavily modified UI in World of Warcraft, and have had a blast with tons of mods in games like Skyrim and Minecraft. It’s just not a hill I’ll die on either. Not every game can or should be modded.

Cethin ,

I mostly just play indie games at this point. Modding isn’t a requirement for me, but why would I pay more for a game that doesn’t do anything interesting. I’ve played pretty much every AAA game, because they haven’t done anything new for so long. They may be prettier, but indie games are cheaper and normally better, and pretty much always less greedy and controlling.

fluckx ,

To be fair the way it worked in d2 was great. You had a closed battle.net which worked through official servers and an open battle.net where your local/twinked/hacked/whatever char could run rampant and play online with friends.

The modded versions of diablo 2 by replacing actual gamefiles is also still possible if you play it off line/local lan.

GaaS just sucks in that regard. A lot of great things came about by modding like in warcraft 3. Or even the superhero/Warcraft mods in counter strike 1.6

Or the max Payne Kung Fu and whatnot mods. I had hours of fun on that. It wasn’t the way the developers intended it to be played. But who cares.

Deathcrow ,

How dare people try to mod a game they bought? What a sad state of affairs, Diablo 2 had such awesome mods.

Callie ,
@Callie@pawb.social avatar

Sadly with a digital game like D4 on PC, you rented it. It doesn’t even have offline mode AFAIK so as soon as they shut off servers, game is bricked

MilitantAtheist ,

It’s GaaS, you didn’t buy Diablo 4, you bought a platform on which they can control the content they want you to play, so they can charge you what they want to charge for it.

gnygnygny ,

Disrespect

Arthur_Leywin ,

They’re trash at making games so they should let others make the game for them. This is a dumb decision.

mrhenry77 ,

that’s close minded. “you are only allowed to enjoy the game exactly as we intended it to be played”

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Blizzard is another user hostile game company.

Lucidlethargy ,

Fuck Blizzard. Stop buying their games.

cyberpunk007 ,

And I didn’t even need any more reasons to not get this game!

Diablo was dead after Diablo 2. Resurrected was pretty good but I really dislike the always online BS. And at the end of the day, it’s still the same old game with a facelift. Recently started playing Diablo 3 again and I realize why I never really got into it. It’s more like gauntlet than Diablo.

Laser ,

Resurrected was pretty good but I really dislike the always online BS.

It’s not always online, the single player can be played offline, just start the binary directly I think.

What it lacks compared to the original is a way for private realms (not that these were ever officially supported in the original game). Still got the game on offer for $20 and think it’s been a great remaster, I had a blast. If you still l want to play D2 in 2023 is a different question though. It was great in its day but a lot of the concepts show their age.

cyberpunk007 ,

Oh I have it on PC and Switch. I know I could easily force offline on the switch but I didn’t think I found a way on PC. Good to know.

arefx ,

I’m just gonna say it… Diablo 3 was not a great game. I probably played 6k hrs of diablo 2 and maybe 50 of diablo 3 before I realized I hated it and was only playing it because I liked the first two games.

SinJab0n ,

Good Old Games FOR LIFE !

All the cool guys love GOG.

cyberpunk007 ,

I buy all my games here, if I can.

Moops ,

Are they trying to nuke their game and community? Cause at this point, you gotta wonder if it’s intentional.

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