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Traveling this summer? Maybe don’t let the airport scan your face.

  • Travelers can opt out of facial recognition at US airports by requesting manual ID verification, though resistance or intimidation may occur.
  • Facial recognition poses privacy risks, including potential data breaches, misidentification, and normalization of surveillance.
  • The Algorithmic Justice League’s “Freedom Flyers” campaign aims to raise awareness of these issues and encourage passengers to exercise their right to opt out.
bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

Stupid privacy people. What’s the worst that could happen? A fascist coming into power next year who could misuse the data?

StereoTrespasser ,

If you already have a passport and opt out of facial recognition, you’re only deluding yourself into a false sense of privacy. In fact, if you enter the screening area at all in an airport, you are kidding yourself if you think you can maintain some semblance of privacy. The government knows what you look like. Calm down and move on with your life.

ByteOnBikes ,

I went vacationing in another country and it was kinda uncomfortable being scanned by cameras, then scanning my passport, then moving across country lines and getting cameras and another scanning of my passport.

Codandchips ,
@Codandchips@lemmy.world avatar

Brit here. About eight years ago I flew from London to Belfast and return for business. We don’t need a passport to travel to Northern Ireland, just photo id like driving licence is fine.

Coming back to London I approached the gate and before I could pull out my wallet to show my id, the guard says " Good evening Mr. Codandchips have a safe journey "…

Yes they have facial recognition, the cameras are visible but you don’t notice them.

vext01 ,
@vext01@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Sounds fishy to me.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

It’s about normalizing survellience, and the article also says this as an opinion further down in the text.

Everyone can see that we are going towards the society in black mirror, with social scores, and people being punished for not complying with rules of any kind. I’m glad I’m kind of old because the future will suck.

MajorHavoc ,

Facial recognition poses privacy risks, including potential data breaches,

I know you’re using the acceptable legal term.

As a Cybersecurity person, the “potential” data breaches we talk about, today, are really pretty certain, at this point, in history.

We may work towards a collective genuine ‘potential’, where the breach might never happen, someday, with effort.

Turns chair around and sits straddling it like a cool youth mentor.

Y’alls faces at airports are definitely getting leaked on the dark web.

The good news is it might take enough years to leak that your appearance might happen to change in between.

TragicNotCute ,
@TragicNotCute@lemmy.world avatar

Like I get it, it’s scary and I don’t want them to have my data, but my picture is being taken ALL the time basically everywhere I go. Is putting my foot down for this specific type really making a difference?

themadcodger ,
@themadcodger@kbin.earth avatar

I have global entry, so they already have my biometric data. I'd love to not here scanned, but this point it wouldn't be anything they didn't already have.

NOPper ,

It’s the only real way to push back that other folks will notice if enough of us do it.

Last time I went through DC a few weeks ago they were using these. I saw a sign saying you’re welcome to opt out. Nobody even questioned what they were doing and were just going along. When it was my turn I politely said I’d rather not do the scan. Dude just glanced at my ID and waved me through. The next few folks behind me blinked and said they didn’t want the scan either. If enough people push back it can at least maybe slow down the normalization of constant surveillance.

techt ,

Put your foot down everywhere then – it’s a fallacy to think that it’s not worth it to resist data harvesting because it already gets collected “everywhere” anyway, take one step at a time to make it harder and harder. Opting out of this is just one step.

player2 ,

You’re already on hundreds of cameras by walking into any airport in the world. Do they need your consent to run facial recognition software on the security footage?

Uli ,

I used to work for a company that did various kinds of biometric recognition. I unfortunately was paraded past these cameras many times for testing purposes, so my face was compromised many moons ago.

We had two kinds of products we installed in airports. When looking at large crowds most airports wanted cameras that would monitor the flow of traffic, determining if there were any bottlenecks causing people to arrive at their gate (or baggage claim) after their luggage.

The other product was facial recognition for identification purposes. These are the machines you have to stand right next to. There are various legal reasons airports did not want to use any crowd-level cameras for identification. They hadn’t obtained consent, but also, the low resolution per face would lead to many more false positives. It was also too costly.

But we did have high def cameras installed in strategic locations at large music halls. These private companies were less concerned with privacy and more concerned with keeping banned individuals out of their property. In those cases, we registered faces of people who were kicked out for various reasons and ignored all other faces.

My point I guess is twofold: first, you might not be facially tracked in as many places as you think you are. Second, eventually you will be and there’s not a whole lot we can do to stop it. For many years, Target has identified people with their payment card, used facial recognition to detect when they return to the store, and used crowd tracking to see where in the store you go (and sometimes they have even changed ad displays based on the demographics of people standing nearby).

Mostly, you will be identified and tracked when there is financial incentive to do so.

credo ,

I’m okay with the TSA scan (pre-check) since… you know… they already have you if you took a picture for your ID.

Those “clear” people however. Who TF thinks it’s a good idea to hand your biometric info to a corp?

AbidanYre ,

I’m sure the government would never let biometric data be compromised. Right?

credo ,

As I said. They already have it.

techt ,

Isn’t reducing the size of the dataset worth it? I’d rather them have a picture from three years ago than a new scan every month or two.

Limonene ,

How did you get into TSA Pre without providing fingerprints? I tried once, and they strictly refused to let me apply because I wouldn’t give fingerprints.

credo ,

Well, I’ve had DLs in multiple states and they all required fingerprints. The little digital ones. Maybe that’s not the case everywhere though.

ThunderWhiskers ,
@ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, weird. They don’t require prints for a DL in TX, but we’re already closing in on an authoritarian state anyways. I didn’t know this was a thing.

Zectivi ,

Clear is now a TSA “vendor” for the precheck process. The machines they use for the sign up process - at least the airport I was at - don’t have the eye scanning camera in the kiosk.

The Clear representative I was asking questions of had said they don’t require eye scans for Clear, though that is the default. People can ask to use just fingerprints, which he said does disrupt the terminal process as the agents don’t think to ask if fingerprints were what was registered when the eye scans fail.

I am not advocating for Clear. I refuse to use them. I simply do want to call out that they are one of 3 who handle the process for the TSA now. People do have a choice of which of the three to use.

Infynis ,
@Infynis@midwest.social avatar

There’s no way my ID photo would work for facial recognition. I don’t plan on giving them anything new before I’m forced to

ByteOnBikes , (edited )

I’m going to assume they can photgraph you the moment you walk into the airport.

I used to be extra during the TSA body scan BS. And honestly, I felt like they won.

essteeyou ,

They’ll always win because they can just prevent you from flying.

ByteOnBikes ,

They pulled me in a private room when I refused to body scan and my bag was suspicious.

It was an extra 25 minutes. Enough to be inconvenient as they tried to find two available TSA agents willing to body check me then check every single item in my suitcase.

henfredemars ,

I tried to refuse the face scan and they looked at me like I just grew eye stalks. After a long pause, I said never mind I need to catch this flight, let’s do it.

It’s not a hill I’m willing to die on, even though I’m disappointed with the practice.

techt ,

I refused, it went fine. I had to repeat myself because it was unexpected and dudebro wasn’t prepared, and they had to turn on the other machine and wait for it to start up, but it only delayed me like 2 minutes. The more people ask, the easier it gets.

ThunderWhiskers ,
@ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world avatar

That’s the fun part about the war for privacy. We have already lost and if you make a big deal about it they’re just going to make your life hell!

techt ,

It’s not such a binary thing as winning or losing, it’s a constantly shifting process. The only way to actually lose is by giving up – instead, consider it making it as hard as possible for your privacy to be infringed upon. Sometimes it’s more inconvenient, but what makes us such a farmable populace is our reluctance to be inconvenienced. Be good at being uncomfortable.

merde ,

For international flights, US citizens can opt out but foreign nationals have to participate in face scanning, with some exceptions.

Zacryon ,

Which exceptions?

1024_Kibibytes ,

I’ll bet one of the exceptions is having a bunch of money.

Shadow ,
@Shadow@lemmy.ca avatar

Canada is one, last I heard.

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