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Survey shows most people wouldn't pay extra for AI-enhanced hardware | 84% of people said no

Companies are going all-in on artificial intelligence right now, investing millions or even billions into the area while slapping the AI initialism on their products, even when doing so seems strange and pointless.

Heavy investment and increasingly powerful hardware tend to mean more expensive products. To discover if people would be willing to pay extra for hardware with AI capabilities, the question was asked on the TechPowerUp forums.

The results show that over 22,000 people, a massive 84% of the overall vote, said no, they would not pay more. More than 2,200 participants said they didn’t know, while just under 2,000 voters said yes.

daniskarma ,

I would pay for a power efficient AI expansion card. So I can self host AI services easily without needing a 3000€ gpu that consumes 10 times more than the rest of my pc.

EliteDragonX ,

This is yet another dent in the “exponential growth AGI by 2028” argument i see popping up a lot. Despite what the likes of Kurzweil, Musk, etc would have you believe, AI is severely overhyped and will take decades to fully materialise.

You have to understand that most of what you read about is mainly if not all hype. AI, self driving cars, LLM’s, job automation, robots, etc are buzzwords that the media loves to talk about to generate clicks. But the reality is that all of this stuff is extremely hyped up, with not much substance behind it.

It’s no wonder that the vast majority of people hate AI. You only have to look at self driving cars being unable to handle fog and rain after decades of research, or dumb LLM’s (still dumb after all this time) to see why. The only real things that have progressed quickly since the 80s are cell phones, computers, etc. Electric cars, self driving cars, stem cells, AI, etc etc have all not progressed nearly as rapidly. And even the electronics stuff is slowing down soon due to the end of Moore’s Law.

cestvrai ,

There is more to AI than self driving cars and LLMs.

For example, I work at a company that trained a deep learning model to count potatoes in a field. The computer can count so much faster than we can, it’s incredible. There are many useful, but not so glamorous, applications for this sort of technology.

I think it’s more that we will slowly piece together bits of useful AI while the hyped areas that can’t deliver will die out.

ryannathans ,

I just want good voice to text that runs on my own phone offline

HerrBeter ,

FUTO Keyboard & voice input?

photonic_sorcerer ,
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Fr, this one is great

FiniteBanjo ,

People already aren’t paying for them, nVidia’s main source of income is industry use and not consumer parts, right now.

bitwolf ,

No, but I would pay good money for a freely programmable FPGA coprocessor.

If the AI chip is implemented as one, and is useful for other things I’m sold.

profdc9 ,

I think manufacturers need to get a lot more creative about simplified computing. The RPi Pico’s GPIO engine is powerful yet simple, and a good example of what is possible with some good application analysis and forethought.

JackbyDev ,

Whichnoart of the pico are you referring to specifically? Never heard the term “GPIO engine” before. Is that sort of like the USB stack but for GPIO?

phlegmy ,

I think they meant PIO (programmable IO). It’s like a small processor tied to some of the IO pins. There’s a very small set of instructions and some state machines.
It can be used to implement your own IO protocols without worrying about the issues that come with bit-banging from the cpu.

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

I have few pi pico but i didn’t knew about it, can you please elaborate, because I’ve been using them just like any other esp32 stm32 esp8266 i have

ClamDrinker ,

Depends on what kind of AI enhancement. If it’s just more things nobody needs and solves no problem, it’s a no brainer. But for computer graphics for example, DLSS is a feature people do appreciate, because it makes sense to apply AI there. Who doesn’t want faster and perhaps better graphics by using AI rather than brute forcing it, which also saves on electricity costs.

But that isn’t the kind of things most people on a survey would even think of since the benefit is readily apparent and doesn’t even need to be explicitly sold as “AI”. They’re most likely thinking of the kind of products where the manufacturer put an “AI powered” sticker on it because their stakeholders told them it would increase their sales, or it allowed them to overstate the value of a product.

Of course people are going to reject white collar scams if they think that’s what “AI enhanced” means. If legitimate use cases with clear advantages are produced, it will speak for itself and I don’t think people would be opposed. But obviously, there are a lot more companies that want to ride the AI wave than there are legitimate uses cases, so there will be quite some snake oil being sold.

AdrianTheFrog , (edited )
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

well, i think a lot of these cpus come with a dedicated npu, idk if it would be more efficient than the tensor cores on an nvidia gpu for example though

edit: whatever npu they put in does have the advantage of being able to access your full cpu ram though, so I could see it might be kinda useful for things other than custom zoom background effects

Steve ,

Any “ai” hardware you but today will be obsolete so fast it will make your dick bleed

t00l ,

They want you to buy the hardware and pay for the additional energy costs so they can deliver clippy 2.0, the watching-you-wank-edition.

radivojevic ,

If you unbend him, clippy could be very useful 🍆📎

aphlamingphoenix ,

God damn you.

Plopp ,

Sound advice.

Petter1 ,

Well, NPU are not in pair with modern GPU. General GPU has more power than most NPUs, but when you look at what electricity cost, you see that NPU are way more efficient with AI tasks (which are not only chatbots).

snek_boi ,

I agree that we shouldn’t jump immediately to AI-enhancing it all. However, this survey is riddled with problems, from selection bias to external validity. Heck, even internal validity is a problem here! How does the survey account for social desirability bias, sunk cost fallacy, and anchoring bias? I’m so sorry if this sounds brutal or unfair, but I just hope to see less validity threats. I think I’d be less frustrated if the title could be something like “TechPowerUp survey shows 84% of 22,000 respondents don’t want AI-enhanced hardware”.

Fedizen ,

30% of people will believe literally anything. 16% means even half of the deranged people aren’t interested.

ipkpjersi ,

Interested or not, more hardware is going to be “AI-enhanced” and believe it or not, it’s going to cost more.

This is our future.

magiccupcake ,

Most people have pretty decent ai hardware already in the form of a gpu.

Sure dedicated hardware might be more efficient for mobile devices, but that’s already done better in the cloud.

Nomecks ,

It’s not really done better in the cloud if you can push the compute out to the device. When you can leverage edge hardware you save bandwidth fees and a ton of cloud costs. It’s faster in the cloud because you can leverage a cluster with economies of scale, but any AI company would prefer the end-user to pay for that compute instead, if they can service requests adequately.

AdrianTheFrog ,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, you also have to deal with the latency with the cloud, which is a big problem for a lot of possible applications

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

Google coral TPU has been around for years and it’s cheap. Works well for object detection.

docs.frigate.video

There’s a lot of use cases in manufacturing where you can do automated inspection of parts as they go by on a conveyor, or have a robot arm pick and place parts/boxes/pallets etc.

Those types of systems have been around for decades, but they can always be improved.

Sam_Bass ,

Its bad enough they shove it on you in some websites. Really not interested in being their lab rats

JackbyDev ,

✨chat assistants✨

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Show me a practical use for AI and I’ll show you the money. Genmoji ain’t it.

Give me a virtual assistant that actually functions and I will give you A LOT of money…

nobleshift ,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

Pepper Pots levels of capability with local storage and I’ll just hand you my card.

brbposting ,

40% of translators report having lost income due to it :0

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I don’t need a translator 🤷

fruitycoder ,

I use a llm fine tuned on medical stuff for minor medical questions or to prep for medical appointments (getting on the same page as the doc can save some serious time, say the wrong thing and they’ll get hung up on it for a year lol).

I really want to combine it something like fasten health so I can go over my medical data on my own machines faster. Pipe dream rn because getting that data from the docs is a pain in the dick, but still would be cool to me.

metaStatic ,

this goes to show just how far the current grift has gone.

AI enhanced hardware? Jesus Fuck take all my money that's amazing.

Dedicated LLM chatbot hardware? Die in a fire for even suggesting this is AI.

peopleproblems ,

AI in Movies: “The only Logical solution, is the complete control/eradication of humanity.”

AI in Real Life: “Dave, I see you only have beer, soda, and cheese in your fridge. I am concerned for your health. I can write you a reminder to purchase better food choices.” Dave: “THESE AI ARE EVIL, I WILL NEVER SUBMIT TO YOUR POWER!”

JDPoZ ,
@JDPoZ@lemmy.world avatar

AI in Real Life: “Dave, I see you only have beer, soda, and cheese in your fridge. I am concerned for your health. I can write you a reminder to purchase better food choices.” Dave: “THESE AI ARE EVIL, I WILL NEVER SUBMIT TO YOUR POWER!” More like :

“Dave, I see you have beer, soda, and cheese in your fridge. Have you thought about ordering PRIME energy drink? There’s a sale.”

No.

“36 count case of PRIME energy drink ordered!”

I said no.

“changed PRIME energy drink 36 count case shipping to next-day air for $150.79!”

GODDAMNIT!

peopleproblems ,

Yeah this is probably more likely. It’s just so depressing

Zorque ,

Please drink verification can.

fruitycoder ,

I think South Parks vision is still the worst. AI so human you can fall in love with but it still tries to manipulate you to sell you things.

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