He is a human trafficking serial rapist. End of story. Anything else is just spewing his own propaganda to legitimize the very real hurt he does to the world.
The main error here is thinking that because some women are motivated by money that we can generalize that to all women. And then use that to justify general misogyny.
There are horrible women and horrible men in the world. Prejudging everyone in a class because some members of the class are horrible is wrong.
To the extent that a boss demanding sex in exchange for career advancement, I agree that makes them sex offenders. But those women still have a choice. They making the wrong choice doesn’t mean they aren’t the victim, but they still should be accountable for their choice.
Agree. Rape and sexual assault nare one thing, and always deplorable. But as presented above, this isn’t that. It’s consensual sex with the hope of advancement.
If the power dynamic is abused by the boss for the purposes of attaining that sex, that’s sexual assault.
Edit: I am not condoning this event with Elon. I’m discussing the abstract difference, while acknowledging the power imbalance
Because of the power imbalance you can never divorce the two, even if she chased him.
That’s not a moral judgement, just a reality that “perspective “ matters here and if she chased him and then decides 3 years later that he unduly promoted her to try and convince her to have sex with him, BOOM he’s screwed, because she’s got a valid point.
I don’t know the answer, but he’s definitely doing things he shouldn’t.
Right but you’re missing the whole “you can’t separate sexual abuse from the power imbalance”
It’s like when a female guard has sex with a male inmate.
I believe that most of the time that happens, the inmate went after the guard. I also believe that if you asked the inmate that they consented to it 100%.
But because the power dynamic at play is so severe, you just have to hardline it and say that as the CEO it’s illegal for you to dip in the company ink.
Probably not worth jail time, maybe just lose your job and be forbidden from directorships/ceo for 10 years?
Why are women doing this? They have a baby with him and they are able to get child support and spousal support for 18 years and maybe for life. This is a nice deal for a few nights of sex with this idiot.
Some do, most don’t. A lot fall for powerful men with lots of money, and my guess is that Musk throws out advances on as many women as he is able and playing the odds with and advantage means he will find a lot of the women who desire what he has to offer from money to attention to the experience.
I would bet that out of the dozen at least one did it for the money, at least one was an accident they decided to keep, and at least one did it because they thought he night marry them.
Nothing is universally true for all women exceot for the fact that they are women.
There are women who intentionally choose to be a single parent. Like they’re single, they get a sperm donor, have a kid. It’s not some insane thing. Kids should have a supportive and caring environment, whomever raises them. Not every kid with a single caregiver is neglected, nor is every kid with 2 or more caregivers properly cared for.
Humans run the complete gamut from the good to bad, smart to stupid.
There will ALWAYS be some people ( this includes women) willing to do anything for a chance at money or even to just rub elbows with the rich, powerful, famous
Ever heard of groupies? Wilt Chamberlain supposedly slept with 10k women and has how many kids.
I think we can all agree on this, this was more of intellectual exercise.
with bigger point being, is that while dear leader is a cunt, these ladies aint angels or vistims. just getting their cut at the expense of kids having a father.
their lives, their choices. we really should not even be giving ol' ra anymore attention tbh. but every other day, here we are.
The fact this has 40 up votes right now makes me feel like lemmy is losing a diverse user base. Like, where are the women to down vote this obviously shitty take?
Let’s list some reasons why these women could have done this that aren’t “women are sluts for clown daddies”:
he’s their boss, and leveraging his insane power over them to make it hard to say no and keep their job
he’s just an extremely powerful man and they’re afraid of pissing him off
they have insecurities, (like the “loser cuck” fallacy!) that they aren’t valuable or desirable as partners, and attention from someone as powerful as him feels like affirmation of their value even if they don’t like him or he treats them badly
they understand that, by not resisting his advances, they might be able to provide themselves a link to a financial source that could support them and a child
he literally sexually harasses, assaults, or rapes them and they don’t feel like they can criminally pursue one of the richest men in the world
Like, yeah, some of them might be individuals who have bad taste in men or are shitty people themselves. I’m even certain that some of them are! But damn, can we take the perspective of the woman for one second? It’s not a good look to find yourself agreeing with incels on the internet
Still, even if it’s a bot/troll/etc. post, if we don’t call it out when we see it, the culture of the community slowly shifts towards “bigotry is acceptable here”…
I’m gonna keep pointing this stuff out when I see it whether the user is acting in good faith or not :)
What I have thanks to money, what i pay for, i.e, what money can buy, that is what I, the possessor of the money, am myself. My power is as great as the power of money. The properties of money are my- (its owner’s)- properties and faculties. Thus what I am and what I am capable of is by no means determined by my individuality. I am ugly, but I can buy myself the most beautiful women. Consequently, I am not ugly, for the effect of ugliness, its power of repulsion, is annulled by money. As an individual I am lame, but money can create twenty four feet for me; so I am not lame; I am wicked, dishonest man without conscience or intellect, but money is honored and so also is its possessor. Money is the highest good and so its possessor is good. Money relieves me of the trouble of being dishonest, so I am presumed to be honest. I may have no intellect, but money is the true mind of all things and so how should its possessor have no intellect? Morever he can buy himself intellectuals, and is not the man who has power over intellectuals not more of [an] intellectual than they?
No shit, I would genuinely love a source for this. You may be joking or exaggerating at least but whatever the case nothing would surprise me about this POS.
I cant even picture how he would have meaningful relationships with the children as they have three different mothers so at least three different households on top of him being CEO of multiple companies. I wonder how often he even sees the kids. Maybe this is the Republican dream of spawning more children but never having to raise or care for any of them outside of maybe an annual trip to Disney Land or some shit.
The same as 99% of other extremely wealthy parents, they don’t. The nannies and tutors raise the kids or in the case of illegitimate kids, the mothers are given hush money or fight and usually receive large child support checks.
This has been the norm since the middle ages or before. Why are so many people shocked and surprised by this?
That’s what confuses me, not that he’s doing it, he’s a narcissist piece of shit. It is every one in this thread with the surprised Pikachu face.
He’s such an egomaniac that reproducing is a kink for him. Imagine being one of those kids and knowing your dad gets off at your very existence while him also caring so little about you other than your genes
You know how the Tesla board voted to gone him a $50 billion compensation package? After child support gets deducted he’s actually making a modest six figure paycheck.
Of course he does. I can’t find a link, but he once thought of all of his kids as a genetic dissemination of his gifts. He literally thinks he’s some kind of special, and not some rich kid cosplaying as Da Vinci or similar. The bar for narcissistic behavior has been raised.
Elon Musk, who has long touted claims about the world’s supposed depopulation crisis, had another child with an executive at his brain implant company Neuralink, according to a report from Bloomberg.
Neuralink director Shivon Zilis reportedly had the child with Musk earlier this year.
On Thursday, Musk reposted a chart that claims Europe is suffering from a “fertility crisis,” saying “civilization may end with a bang or with a whimper (in adult diapers).”
He told Carlson “a collapsing birth rate is the biggest danger civilization faces, by far.” In 2021, Musk’s nonprofit organization donated $10 million to the University of Austin to fund the Population Wellbeing Initiative, a research group that studies the human population.
A recent report from The Wall Street Journal said Musk had a sexual relationship with a former SpaceX intern who later became one of the company’s executives.
Last week, eight former SpaceX engineers filed a lawsuit against Musk that claims the billionaire “knowingly and purposefully created an unwelcome hostile work environment based upon his conduct of interjecting into the workplace vile sexual photographs, memes, and commentary that demeaned women and/or the LGBTQ+ community.” The complaint echoes past allegations of discrimination and sexual harassment at SpaceX, including an incident where Musk allegedly propositioned a flight attendant for sex.
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