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corsicanguppy ,

I wanna know how to flash the echoes to custom firmware. Then I’ll be set to migrate.

SomeGuy69 ,

Won’t last long. Free apps will ruin that Amazon subscription plan fast. One can already get a local and free chatAI and it’s already just a few clicks setup and I wouldn’t be surprised if these get made more easier for the mainstream any day. The tech is just too new, but were getting there soon.

aesthelete ,

I will pay exactly zero dollars, thanks!

InternetUser2012 ,

If I have to pay to have my dots and ring, i will throw the shit out in the street

Edit: Yeah, I’m done with them anyways, they’re trash.

_sideffect ,

Lmao, charge us for everything which was at first an incentive to buy your shit products

teamevil ,

Not having Amazon is great and cheaper than having it.

selokichtli ,

I didn’t think people really expected to believe that their smart stuff was really theirs. Did they? Imagine renting your bulbs to Amazon.

Blackmist ,

Watch the existing one become even more insufferable to push you into paying for the upgrade.

Thecla ,

Will the existing ones still operate without the subscription?

sfxrlz ,

What do you think ^^

ArtVandelay ,
@ArtVandelay@lemmy.world avatar

I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that

anarchyrabbit ,

“Sorry, I don’t understand your question. Could you try again?”

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I was never going to buy one of those, but now I have a second good reason to not want my conversations eavesdropped on

dukethorion ,
@dukethorion@lemmy.world avatar

Since it won’t come with my Prime sub, it’ll just get unplugged and thrown away.

Also, because the AI part.

EnderMB ,

Uhhh…it’s had AI backing it for most of the decade

Infynis ,
@Infynis@midwest.social avatar

Oh no! Where else will I find a Bluetooth speaker that also tells me the temperature outside?

admin ,
@admin@lemmy.my-box.dev avatar

Without datamining and that works out of the box? Please let us know when you find out.

Bogasse ,
@Bogasse@lemmy.ml avatar

I hope for one good thing to come out from all this AI madness : people might get used to pay for a service on the internet again. If this miraculously happens it could lead to people more cautiously choose services over quality instead of the one with darkest patterns.

One can still dream…

Bizarroland ,
@Bizarroland@kbin.social avatar

I wouldn't get your hopes up too high.

You're thinking like you are the customer and the customer is always right, so if you pay for a service it should provide you what you want, right?

This is not that scenario.

You are not the customer. You are a product that is being sold to advertisers. It does not matter if you also pay them money, you are still the product. If you pay them money on top of being sold then you are just an especially profitable product.

Paying them money will not cause you to cease being a product, no matter how much money you are willing to pay.

If you use a different company's product that starts off with you being the customer, eventually, they will learn that they can make more money by selling you to other people, and they will.

sudo42 ,

Yup. Any entity ties to Wall St. must make that $ line go higher every quarter. The how doesn’t matter.

Bogasse ,
@Bogasse@lemmy.ml avatar

I was more thinking that if people were paying they might give more thoughts to what they are diving into. But yeah I agree that’s just a wet dream.

adam_y , (edited )
@adam_y@lemmy.world avatar

Well, once again a tech company gives a service I don’t care for an overhaul I don’t want and tries to charge a fee I won’t pay.

I suspect when this doesn’t do the numbers they want they’ll try adding a user fee to oxygen as a retaliation.

SlopppyEngineer ,

You should watch Spaceballs. They have Perri-Air.

Bizarroland ,
@Bizarroland@kbin.social avatar

And you could also look at the real world. We have boost air.

SlopppyEngineer ,

I am quite literally touching grass now, thank you very much.

catloaf ,

That’ll be $15

TheFeatureCreature ,
@TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world avatar

Just what the cash-strapped people of the world want - more monthly fees.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Looks like companies are shifting to charging users whose data they are stealing.

The saying ‘if you aren’t the customer, you are the product’ is outdated. Now you are the customer and the product!

ichbinjasokreativ ,

Windows has done this for ages now. Buying a laptop, you pay well over $100 for the windows license alone, yet it is the most egregious operating system when it comes to datamining the user.

admin ,
@admin@lemmy.my-box.dev avatar

And then they started putting ads for subscriptions in the os.

NutWrench ,
@NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

And for something that is already data-mining you. Adding a fee just adds insult to injury.

IHeartBadCode ,
@IHeartBadCode@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, I think that's the bigger issue here. These devices pay their way by collecting data to sell off. What this "overhual" is indicating is that they haven't quite figured out how to make these devices not only pay for themselves, but also, generate a net background profit for the company.

The only thing I'm reading from this story is that Amazon is just aiming for more dollar signs from Alexia. I'm going tell you in the day and age of Siri and Whatever Google's thing is, this is going to backfire massively on Amazon. This will likely collapse whatever paltry Alexia that's out there. And I have a good feeling they'll look at this collapse as "well the technology just isn't a good money maker." No you idiots, it's not a mass profit driver. I get how something not drawing double digit percentage gains is a mystery to you all, but just because you cannot buy your fifteenth yacht from it, doesn't mean that the technology is a failure.

But it's whatever, Amazon's ship to wreck.

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Yeah nah, not gonna pay for that

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