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Bazzatron ,

I don’t feel like this is a technology post, purely another anti-consumer business decision being levied against us.

As for the whole “piracy has rejoined the chat” “hello old friend” discourse - pirate what? The One Piece live action? Post-Cavil Witcher? TV hasn’t been worth watching in a good while, netflix even longer. I barely turn mine on anymore.

zxo ,

Stremio + Torrentio + Real-Debrid is becoming better by the day now. I never had a Netflix subscription in the first place, but I don’t think I would ever get one now.

itadakimasu ,
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Fuck ads

steve228uk ,
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As soon as they reported that the plan with ads was making them more money the fate of the basic plan was sealed. This combined with the money grab with household sharing means my Plex server is getting a lot of use 🌝

Zarxrax ,

Are we trying to set a new record for reposts for the same story in the same community within a single day?

FeelzGoodMan420 , (edited )

Dude seriously. This is like the 3rd repost I’ve seen today on this. I figured Lemmy would at least be slightly less dogshit than Reddit but damn…

n3cr0 , (edited )

You can pay in Turkish Lira, which translates roughly to 6 EUR/USD for the premium plan.

FLEGMON ,

After a month of geolock

Chipthemonk ,

These companies seem to forget that the main thing holding them afloat is the ability to watch it simply at a low cost. Pirating is very easy and there are plenty of tools to achieve this same goal if prices keep going up.

I’ve already abandoned Netflix. I would rather pirate shows I hear are good than mindlessly scroll on that platform while paying $240 a year or whatever.

CaptObvious ,

Yet another case study in how to kill a successful business.

Astroturfed ,

Define successful? They were only really profitable over covid as people with nothing better to do subscribed in mass. Theyve been on borrowed time since all the content started getting pulled. Their business model stopped working 4-5 years ago and they’re just trying to do anything to stay afloat now.

CaptObvious ,

Forbes (2020) seems to disagree: “Viewed from the lens of net income, Netflix has been performing well, with its net profits growing 3x from around $0.6 billion in 2017 to $1.9 billion in 2019.” If their profitability increased during the pandemic, as seems likely, this feels more like another naked money grab. It’s almost guaranteed to drive away users, something that they can ill afford under any circumstances.

CmdrShepard ,

Yeah not sure what they’re talking about as Netflix was massive long before COVID was a thing. They were the first streaming service and brought rise to all the others.

CaptObvious ,

Yeah, Netflix has been profitable for decades. They killed Blockbuster and other rental stores. One doesn’t manage to do that while losing money.

Astroturfed ,

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    Astroturfed ,

    Like your one inch dick. People only need to see it once.

    Mrmcmisterson ,

    I mean, you can see their financial statements. All that stuff is public info since they are a publicly traded company. This chart shows the net profits since 2010 going from 161m to almost 5B

    www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/…/net-income

    irkli , (edited )
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    Figures. No surprise really. When you’ve maxed everything out the only path to growth is to squeeze existing customers.

    Rom ,
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    That’s capitalism, baby. It’s always growth growth growth without end. Capitalists having a solid, mature product/service that’s making them a constant stream of money is never enough, they have to keep making more and more money, even if it means making the product shittier and shittier and sucking every last possible cent out of the end user until the product is a ghost of its former self. But hey, shareholder profits are up half a percent in the last quarter, totally worth it.

    See also: reddit

    zoobiedoobie , (edited )

    I guess it’s time to go back to torrenting movies and shows. I literally come from a generation that used to watch 40 part movies on youtube playlists. Bring it on Netflix.

    Noxvento ,
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    Stremio+Torrentio+RealDebrid and you’re golden.

    NOT_RICK ,
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    VPN with no logging is probably a good addition to that list

    cave ,
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    If anyone wants a suggestion for one Mullvad is fantastic. They somewhat recently withstood a real life test of being raided and proved they keep no logs. There is no bulk pricing but the service is top tier.

    NOT_RICK ,
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    Their pricing on the site made for a good laugh. 5 Euro, take it or leave it!

    CmdrShepard , (edited )

    They’re no longer good for torrenting as they removed port forwarding at the beginning of the month.

    PeachMan ,
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    Port forwarding isn’t necessary for torrents…

    However, I would agree that they’re not the best for torrenting, Mullvad is for truly paranoid people that are REALLY concerned about privacy. If you just want to torrent without getting letters from your ISP, cheaper options like Nord, Proton, and PIA are fine.

    CmdrShepard ,

    It’s necessary if you want to seed anything or join a private tracker. Torrenting without port forwarding just leads to a bunch of dead torrents and the inability to share/download that content in the future.

    PeachMan ,
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    Eh? What does port forwarding have to do with dead torrents? I was under the impression that trackers tracked your IP to see if you were seeding, and that doesn’t require port forwarding. Also, I’d argue that your private tracker isn’t private enough if you need a VPN to use it. I use one private tracker without a VPN to avoid all those issues, and the rest of my torrenting is on public trackers with a VPN. Seems to have worked so far.

    CmdrShepard ,

    If you don’t have port forwarding, most other users can’t make a connection to your computer. How that ends up leading to dead torrents is that you’re reducing the size of the swarm by not seeding. Additionally, it may still show you as a seeder which can cause issues if you’re the only user as nobody will be able to actually make a connection with you to download the file.

    As far as private trackers go, I have no reason to ‘trust’ any of them since I don’t personally know any of the people running them. You can choose to turn your VPN off with them even though you already have one running for public sites, but I don’t see how that benefits you in any way. It’s just a needless risk.

    PeachMan , (edited )
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    Lol port forwarding is a needless risk too, and I still don’t get how not having it on keeps me from seeding properly. I seed torrents just fine?

    EDIT: reading up on it, it sounds like it slows seeding down but still allows others to connect to you. I’m okay with that, honestly: reddit.com/…/answered_why_you_do_need_portforward…

    CmdrShepard ,

    Maybe keep reading.

    Bittorrent relies on your connection working both ways: to accept incoming and outgoing connections. Without port-forwarding: you may will see slower speeds, slower speed ramp up and if a torrent has very few online seeders you may run into a situation where you cannot connect to anybody at all - no download! Seeding is very hard without port-forwarding.

    Normally home users cannot accept incoming connections due to NAT. This is always the case for proxies and VPNs, but some VPNs allow the assignment of a port that will always lead to your connected device (and to your client). Making outgoing connections is always technically possible but then you rely on the seed/peer to have their ports open! At least one side must be open. There’s no way around.

    They even had a special FAQ-like section for users such as yourself right before the above quote.

    But it has been running fine without any port-forwarding for me!

    Can you explain the risk of port forwarding through a VPN?

    PeachMan ,
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    Port forwarding is inherently unsafe because it opens your network to outside connections from anyone that knows which port to ping. Having a VPN does nothing to mitigate that threat, it just gives you a different IP.

    CmdrShepard ,

    I think you need to do a lot more research because you aren’t opening your network to anything with this.

    PeachMan ,
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    Forwarding a port is literally opening your network. It doesn’t matter what the reason for doing so is, whether it’s torrenting or gaming. That’s why it’s called both “forwarding” or “opening” a port depending on who you ask.

    It’s a small risk, but it’s a risk. If you open a device on your network to the Internet through a forwarded port, there’s a real possibility that somebody will find you and attack you. There are bots that spend their entire life looking for common open ports on random IP addresses. And the ports used for torrenting are probably some of the most common. Best security practice for any network is NOT to open a port, but rather to find an alternative method of accessing things outside your network, like a VPN or reverse proxy. In the case that you do need to open a port, that device should be isolated on your network, preferably in its own VLAN.

    CmdrShepard ,

    The port you’re opening is with your VPN provider not your local network hence why you need a VPN with port forwarding.

    PeachMan ,
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    You sure? I assumed you had to open a port in both.

    Noxvento ,
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    Not needed with Real Debrid. Without it, yes.

    NOT_RICK ,
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    Had no idea, that’s good to know!

    sock ,

    just watch on f2movies or an adjacent site it streams almost every movie and show

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