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Why is there no USB-C (female) to mini-B (male) adapter?

I converted my cable park to a USB-C cable (male to male) and lots of adapers (the short sort you can keep in a box) years ago. Yet i have still some devices with a mini-B female port.

Only thing i found online are cables and everything else. Heck, there’s even mini-DP > C and ethernet > C in that form factor.

To clarify, i look for something like this but mini-B instead of micro.

edit: Region is Swiss, Europe.

editedit: thanks guys, found one.

TenderfootGungi ,

They are not common because it is possible to use them incorrectly and cause a fire.

isVeryLoud ,

Is it because USB C can be host AND device while Mini USB is only device?

nous ,

How? Anything with a mini will be USB 2 at most and USB c defaults to lower power of USB 2 without any handshakes with the device which one with USB mini won’t do.

FuzzChef ,

Theoretically you could build a male to male contraption from multiple adapters and a cable. Also you could be providing too much current to a device, however this is specific to the combination of adapter, cable and power supply you use.

nous ,

Theoretically you could build a male to male contraption from multiple adapters and a cable.

You already can as these exist:

https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/50ef9f7d-3ca5-43e7-b8a1-32dd5bc963bb.jpeg

letting you plug in any existing USB A to mini cables together to get a male to male device - nothing unsafe about that though. So this is not a very good reason to not allow USB C to mini adapters.

Also you could be providing too much current to a device, however this is specific to the combination of adapter, cable and power supply you use.

Current is pulled by the device - you cannot supply too much current. Devices take just as much current as they need or as much as the adapter can supply. The only way a device would take more than that is by badly designed or faulty - but that is a problem with the device, if the power supply can supply the power there is no issues on that side.

Also USB C connectors can and do by default operate with USB 2 power - supplying 5V and limiting the current to the USB 2 standards and so any existing charger with USB A or mini connectors on. Thus any USB 2 device will only have access to the power given by the spec. You would require a handshake from newer USB protocols to get access to more voltage/current that some USB C chargers can supply.

There is nothing unsafe about any other this baring faulty devices - but if we worried about faulty devices then we would not allow any electronics devices to exist as any of them could be faulty. USB C to USB mini does not dramatically increase any risk of fire or devices exploding no more so than any device using USB mini or USB C alone.

The real reason is there is likely just not much of a market for them so they are harder to find - but they do exist.

FuzzChef ,

Of course those exist, but that does not make them standard compliant. Same goes for power supplies that don’t do handshakes. That’s not an issue if you exactly know what you need them for, but they’re not meant for the general public because you can use them wrong.

GlitzyArmrest ,
@GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not sure that there’d be enough voltage to cause a fire.

billwashere ,

This will NOT cause a fire.

robotopera ,

You might be able to find a USB c male to USB b male cable and do without an adapter entirely.

MonkderZweite OP ,

Been there, always a fumbling behind the PC.

robotopera ,

USB hub? I have a spare of USB c, mini, and micro running from a hub to a 3x cable mount on my desk. Makes connecting peripherals a breeze.

bionicjoey ,

This thread made me realise how awesome it would be to have a specialized search engine or storefront where you can describe a custom bit of cabling or donglage based on what you need to connect together and search whether anything like that exists.

ReveredOxygen ,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

Even more awesome if it could find the cheapest adapter chain in the case where it doesn’t have it directly

TheEntity ,

The USB-C (female) adapters are hard to find due to technically being non-compliant. If you're interested about the reasons and some further context, I can recommend this article: https://hackaday.com/2022/12/27/all-about-usb-c-illegal-adapters/

In your specific case, it's twice as hard to find such an adapter due to MiniUSB being so uncommon these days.

happinessattack ,

That’s a very interesting article, thanks!

MonkderZweite OP ,

Ah, so that’s why the C to micro adapter to charge my old Galaxy S3 only works one side.

Quacksalber ,

www.amazon.de/…/B0C71B7Y72

MonkderZweite OP ,

Ok, danke, die sind sogar hier verfügbar.

Mportercls ,

Search term “mini usb2 to usbc” on amazon UK came back with a good list… brands easyult and nfhk. No clue how good they are or if they would be available in EU/CH.

MonkderZweite OP ,

Thanks, but amazon can’t deliver them to switzerland. None of them, it’s crazy.

kate ,

Maybe aliexpress? They typically have global shipping

MonkderZweite OP , (edited )

Good idea. Amazon wants my phone number. :-/

whyNotSquirrel ,
@whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works avatar

and from France ? Adaptateur USB C vers Mini USB (Pack de 2), Seminer Type C (Femelle) vers Mini USB 2.0 (Mâle) Convertir Connecteur Compatible avec Appareils Photo Numériques, Ordinateur, GPS (Noir)

MonkderZweite OP ,

thanks, that one too.

whyNotSquirrel ,
@whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works avatar

if you’re not too far from one of the borders you could maybe make it delivered in an Amazon box and pick it up there?

LeadSoldier ,

I have some around my house because I switched all of my cables to usb-C. I bought a six pack on Amazon.

evident5051 ,

I’m confused, I just did a quick search and found one on Amazon that’s listed for about $14. Am I missing something here?

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/2b8db7f6-550e-4e13-af05-80924a35725d.jpeg

MonkderZweite OP ,

Maybe the region, Swiss, Europe? Google and Duckduckgo found nothing.

But thanks, so they do exist.

Can you give me your search term or the brand?

felbane ,

a.co/d/cotVhJD

This is on US Amazon. Brand JXMOX.

MonkderZweite OP ,

Dang it, all are unavailable for my region. Ebay too. Legal reasons?

AdamEatsAss ,

Yes, many nations outlawed these during the great USB wars. So many packets lost, so many busses unserialized, and we still feel the consequences today.

MonkderZweite OP ,

I mean, there are laws for shielding and chemicals and stuff, which are often more stringent in swiss.

refurbishedrefurbisher , (edited )

Check AliExpress

You might be waiting months to get it, though.

ABCDE ,

Try aliexpress

jasep ,

I have a pack of these, although perhaps not this specific brand. I swear by them. Mini and micro usb can die in a fire please.

averagedrunk ,

Same. I have a lot of legacy recording equipment that I won’t replace until it stops working and it’s all mini USB.

I’m just glad I got what I did instead of FireWire.

ozymandias117 ,

FireWire was ahead of its time. Thunderbolt is USB’s answer to FireWire

averagedrunk ,

I can’t argue with that because honestly I was jealous of the folks running it. But they are buying new equipment today and I’m not.

ozymandias117 ,

I don’t know about the audio equipment side - it’s just funny to me from a computer operating system side that FireWire “lost” and now USB is implementing the “bad” things that caused us to pick USB over it

JDPoZ ,
@JDPoZ@lemmy.world avatar

Ah yes. Good ol JXMOX… a household name in quality electronics.

So glad this is the world we live in where a cat that’s attacking a keyboard can provide company names that fart in and out of existence every month on the monolithic online shopping monopoly site we all basically are forced to use if we need anything since RadioShack, Fry’s, and every single other boutique electronics shop is gone.

isVeryLoud ,

It’s white-labeling with a side of trademark spam for good measure.

surewhynotlem ,

Look, JXMOX is a fabulous company. Nothing like that piece of shit JXMOW that had to shut down due to horrible reviews.

Aceticon , (edited )

They’re basically the brands of the very same Chinese factories that make the big-brand name stuff that’s sold to you for 4x the price. (Mind you, some are from little factories that aren’t really all that professional. Those are invariably shit and what I say below does not apply to those)

Whilst I can understand your point, you’re basically celebrating the modern strategy were Developed World electronics brands are nothing more than one big Marketing operation with the actual manufacturing and often even design of their products subcontracted to some Chinese factory.

Now, the risk with getting the factory brand stuff is that it’s not at all uncommon for them to use inferior designs or materials because that brand is so shallow and they don’t really care about defending it (that does not apply to established Chinese brands, by the way) and are mainly competing on price, whilst Western brands often enforce that better materials and designs are used and proper Quality Assurence is done to keep failure rates low, though if you’re old enough you might have noticed that quality of the brands popular in the West is now way lower that 2 or 3 decades ago and practices such as planned-obscelence have become common.

Tons of little factory brands is a good thing, IMHO. (Just wish the Chinese didn’t overdid it in the whole competing on price and hence turning perfectly good designs into devices that quickly break).

All this to say that while brand is this cozy familiar thing, it’s often not worth the price and the gains from it are quite limited because there is no inhouse manufacturing behind the brand anymore and the whole thing has been cheapenned at the manufacturing end.

My recommendation is to disregards brand for the stuff that’s cheap and not mission critical - such as the kind of USB converted the OP is looking for - since when the big brand name stuff costs you 4x you can risk getting no-name brand stuff that breaks easilly and even if 2 of those devices don’t last long it will still be cheaper. Maybe the best example of this are LED Light bulbs - the no-name brand stuff has to obbey the same rules (such as the requirements for getting the CE mark) and even if the make quality ends up being inferior to big brand stuff, the price is so stupendously cheaper (really ridiculously so, like a Philips one will cost you 15x what the same no-name brand stuff costs if you get it via Ali Express) that you can get a few extra and are still way better off, especially because stuff like CE mark enforces low failure rate, low brightness loss over time and a number of other criteria important for these things.

For more expensive stuff, you probably want the well known branded stuff, because there’s more money at risk, the non-branded stuff savings aren’t all that much, their better QA makes it less likely that it will break easilly, there is proper Warranty support and you can more easilly research it upfront to find out the best device of that kind for you which is actually decent because there are more user-reviews out there for stuff from big brands.

multitude ,

When clicking that link it came up with the last time I’ve purchased it. So as a random Internet stranger I can actually vouch for these.

I’ve got an old Sonicare travel toothbrush that used that as a charger and really didn’t want to pack another cable. I’ve bought another pack because I ended up giving one away to a friend that lost the cable for a digital camera they use for work, and cannot use their cell phone for compliance reasons.

In both cases it has worked fine for just charging, and for data transfer.

Revan343 ,

“amazon type c to mini usb adapter” is what I googled to get the same result as them. Maybe try the same query directly on your regional Amazon page if Google isn’t helping

Toes ,

If you need a lot I believe StarTech or CDW can work out a shipment.

billwashere ,

Do a search for fire starter… /s

MonkderZweite OP ,

Vs. the commonly found mini cable? Don’t think so.

HippieWithGuns ,

I‘m also from the Swiss and for this stuff i always use aliexpress. Very good price and never had any issues. a.aliexpress.com/_mtiKwFEJust search for „usb-c to mini“ and you find lots of options. generally you can say the higher the price the better the quality. also take note of the shipping costs, sometimes costs are „hidden“ in there. PM me if you need help or have questions.

MonkderZweite OP ,

Danke schön.

Wizard_Pope ,
@Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world avatar

Check the amount of sold items for the listing check the shipping lrice and check the 1 and 2 star reviews. That way you make sure the item is genuine.

sixCats ,

Do a search on aliexpress, you’ll get 10 for the $14 linked above

Thermal_shocked ,

Nearly every single port adapter exists. People will not upgrade their stuff until absolutely necessary and will get adapters in the meantime.

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