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AI-Generated George Carlin Drops Comedy Special That Daughter Speaks Out Against: ‘No Machine Will Ever Replace His Genius’

AI-Generated George Carlin Drops Comedy Special That Daughter Speaks Out Against: ‘No Machine Will Ever Replace His Genius’::Stand-up comedian George Carlin has been brought back to life in an artificial intelligence-generated special called ‘I’m Glad I’m Dead.’

Lucidlethargy ,

This is bullshit, and it’s bad for you.

Chakravanti ,

Of course they can’t. But they can and will exploit every single word he’s ever said. Then exploit every idiot who gives said AI product and sense of their attention.

Gotta be a dick here though. If they listen to the honestly lying charade running now then they didn’t hear him when he explained the first time.

Arkaelus ,

This must be the absolute epitome of this AI replication poor taste… The person who thought it would be a good idea to do this with Carlin, probably the one human who hated human bullshit more than anyone else to have ever existed, is either so out of touch they don’t even vibrate at the same frequency as the rest of existence, or so far up their own ass that they’re staring at their pancreas… An absolutely disgusting move.

bionicjoey ,

so out of touch they don’t even vibrate at the same frequency as the rest of existence, or so far up their own ass that they’re staring at their pancreas

What gets me is the creator says they “studied” Carlin in order to match his style. Imagine consuming Carlin’s entire body of work and still somehow thinking this was a good idea…

not_woody_shaw ,

I’m guessing they started with Carlin to get all the fuss out of the way up front, so they can get on with doing all the others with minimal outcry.

andrew_bidlaw ,

I’d imagine there’s a skit to make ironising the whole situation, but I’m not sure anyone can pull it off just like him, or at all. Not this random guy refurbishing his older material to make a fake guest appearance. Before all his punchlines were days of hard work, and it would be twice of that to correctly mimick his style, gestures, sense of humor and guess what he’d say now. It’d be lovely to see a talented impersonator to try that, and using AI like that is just selling this guy cheap. He deserves a better homage if there’s one needed, and not pushed like that for promotion and without contacting his family.

KingJalopy ,

Or they’re smart by trying to create outrage and generate those tasty clicks

UnderpantsWeevil ,
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Reminds me of all those efforts to create Hologram Tupac.

GuyDudeman ,
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There was literally just one effort to create Hologram Tupac, and it was obvious that it was CG. This is much better.

ininewcrow ,
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No one cares if it’s right or wrong … absolutely no one cares what anyone thinks about any of it, about ethics, morals, respect or rights.

All anyone cares about is how much money it’s going to make.

We should install a turbine onto Carlin’s coffin because he’s probably spinning so fast right now, he could power New York City.

frezik ,

This has happened with the estates of famous people for a long time. It didn’t start with the current trend of deep learning systems.

Tupac’s estate has mined every single little recording he did and pressed it to an album. Gene Roddenberry’s notes got turned into two series (Earth: Final Conflict and Andromeda), both of which started pretty good and slowly degraded over time. The Tolkien estate was held back by Christopher for a long time, but now he’s gone, the remaining heirs are happy to rake in the cash, and they’re being thoughtless about what they greenlight (like the Gollum game) (oh, and there’s only about 20 years for them to keep the copyright, which isn’t that long; Peter Jackson movies were about 20 years ago).

Franz Kafka instructed all his unpublished manuscripts be burned when he died. GRRM has instructed that even if he doesn’t finish A Song of Ice and Fire before his death, it will not be picked up by another author to finish. These are wise people.

Holli25 ,

A notable exception would be Robert Jordan and his Wheel of Time series. He prepared notes so someone could finish the work and his widow picked Brandon Sanderson to finish the series. But I think it feels easier to milk it than to be thoughtful with the life’s work of someone, as this requires a lot “would he have liked it” and to know this you would have to start caring early.

Lunatech ,
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@L4s I will not comment on the ethics of this, but I will say that if I had heard this without being told it's AI generated (and the do tell you, at the start and again at the end) and if I didn't know Carlin was dead, I would easily have believed it was him doing this bit. Now I was never a big Carlin fan (I pretty much only heard what could be played on the radio, and most of his stuff didn't fall into that category) so maybe someone more acquainted with his material would have noticed differences, but to me it was a scary good impression of him.

I have to wonder if the daughter doesn't like it because she realizes that she's (I assume) still getting some small amount of payment when people buy his older stuff, but as much of his material was topical I'm guessing those payments are ever diminishing, and she may fear that AI impressions of him will diminish the sales of his older stuff even further. Either that, or possibly it's unsettling to her that a machine could come that close to making a spot-on impression of her father. I guess if someone created an AI of my dad saying things that he never actually said when he was alive, I would also find it somewhat unsettling and maybe even a little creepy.

I'd also be interested to know exactly how much of the creativity behind this (the script) was created by the AI and how much work there was on the part of humans to make it sound natural. I get that AI can make the audio, that's pretty much a given now, but where did the script come from?

neurogenesis ,

This is hilarious; everyone saying Carlin would hate this is essentially putting words in his mouth just like Dudesy did, but Dudesy put a lot more effort in.

AlfredEinstein ,

Excellent point.

merc ,

No, they’re just extrapolating what someone’s feeling on something might be. That’s pretty different than creating an entire comedy special using the voice of a dead guy.

neurogenesis ,

But what does the dead guy have to say about it?

merc ,

Nobody knows, but he’d probably hate it. I certainly wouldn’t want to put any words in his mouth, then use a computer program to imitate his voice so it seemed as if he were saying those words.

neurogenesis ,

I feel like as an anti capitalist (on the outside) nihilist anarchist insane fuck the world comedian, who is dead, he can’t care. If his daughter can’t sue then this is a circle jerk. When I die what my arrangements take care of is as much as I can control, after that who gives a fuck. I personally think he’d laugh his ass off.

Malfeasant ,

Nothing, he’s dead.

bionicjoey ,

I met Kelly Carlin once. She is an awesome human being and cares a lot about her father’s legacy.

AlfredEinstein ,

Does she own the rights to his work by chance?

veeesix ,
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I’m not concerned so much about comedians being impersonated than I am about politicians making guest appearances in political ads suddenly saying/supporting untrue things.

db2 ,

They already do that. Frequently.

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  • qarbone ,

    I find it weird that you think a well-done deepfake porn video of someone vulnerable would be in any way less affecting than if real porn had been released.

    batmaniam ,

    I’ve seen it brought up before, the notion isn’t that it’s ethical or OK, but some people think that the draw post any of that stuff will be gone because anyone could do it and you’d never know if any of it was authentic. Kind of like if you flooded the market with lab grown rhino horns to crash the price and stop poaching, and then also the demand goes away because there’s no allure anymore.

    I don’t know if Id bet on it, but it’s different than saying “I can deep fake porn of anyone without their consent so who wants revenge porn”.

    angrymouse ,

    I think we can go against both here, the root cause seems the same

    KingThrillgore ,
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    This is some kind of bad joke right?

    Excrubulent ,
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    That or a lot of very, very bad jokes

    Fisk400 ,

    Literal ghouls.

    gravitas_deficiency ,

    This is so tragicomedically the opposite of everything that Carlin was about in so many ways that it’s difficult to fully comprehend

    werefreeatlast ,

    The man was a genius for sure 100% I loved every bit of all the shit he said.

    TheAlbatross ,

    Stupid future run by stupid, greedy fools

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