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RememberTheApollo_ ,

And you know what? That’s cool. They’re not doubling down, they’re not staying the course. I’ve spent a lot of time in the EU and yeah, those cookie pop ups absolutely are annoying, but as a US citizen it’s a reminder of how the EU is trying to protect its citizens, FBFW, how the US is still bending to corporatocracy, and I am simultaneously envious and annoyed as I click “Alle Ablehnen”.

paddirn ,

Cookie Monster approves.

archomrade ,

I actually just landed in the EU for the first time since 2014, and i’m honestly quite pleased with the notifications i’m getting (albeit not the ones discussed here). The first time I opened AirBnB since landing, it asked me permission for all the data it wanted to collect for targeted advertizing, and I was actually able to turn off most of it. I wish the US had the same.

The website popups are quite annoying, but those are easier to control anyway by picking better browsers and extensions.

OhmsLawn ,

Ah. I wasn’t aware of that. Thanks!

BaardFigur ,

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    DhrRob ,

    It does… ¯_(ツ)_/¯

    Kiddkao ,

    No. Most of the time there is a Accept all button, but a Manage button and then another popup where you have to uncheck everything and then Save. Pretty annoying, especially on mobile

    ADTJ ,

    You are both correct, the law states that it has to be as easy to opt out as in, but most companies are not implementing it correctly

    OhmsLawn ,

    Yeah, California is supposed to have a “Do Not Track” option. I’ve hardly ever seen it.

    efstajas , (edited )

    Do Not Track is a browser setting. You enable it in your browser settings for all websites. All it does is ask the website to please “not track” you. Most sites of course don’t even check for the setting.

    The law in California is just that the privacy policy must clearly state if / how the site is honoring Do Not Track, not that it must be presented to you as an option or even actually honored at all.

    phoenixz ,

    Yeah, they “accidentally” did it completely wrong because fuck the customers and the law.

    tja ,
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    Yes annoying and also not allowed. You can tell your data protection agency which site is doing it and they will investigate.

    Honytawk ,

    Yes, and that is illegal. That is the point.

    kokesh ,
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    Finally. They are total bullshit.

    GiddyGap ,

    I’m not a fan of the cookie consent popups, but I do appreciate the EU actually trying to do something to protect people’s privacy. Seemingly the only major entity to do so right now.

    cybersandwich ,

    That was my first thought as an American. It’s refreshing to see that 1. They attempted something meaningful in the first place 2. They recognize it isn’t perfect/not having the intended effect and are making adjustments.

    This seems like a functioning government.

    victorz ,

    All of these comments that say different things, but all sound like “just do X, I’m an expert in EU laws and their theoretical consequences”. It’s as simple as that, is it? Wonder why nobody thought of that before.

    Legisign ,

    Admittedly, but I for one can say with justified self-reliance that I expected this outcome even before the directive was in force.

    victorz ,

    Nice

    WholeEnchilada ,

    It would be less annoying if you could easily tell it that you don’t want garbage. Instead, when you select your preferences you have to go through a whole list of options. By the time you’re finished customizing your cookie preferences you’ve forgotten why the hell you went to the page and what the hell the page is. It’s ridiculous. It should be as simple as having two buttons: one for accepting the site’s default garbage and another for for rejecting the site’s default garbage.

    atthecoast ,

    The browser extension Consent-o-matic does this and was developed with money from the European Commission.

    StereoCode ,

    What if this wasn’t a website issue but a browser one. Browsers invented cookies so browsers should be the ones to implement the banner feature. All Developers would then be forced to implement fallbacks to their cookies since the user could turn cookies off. If it was browser based fix then it would be a consistent UI and developers wouldn’t be able to do shady shit(at least with cookie consent is concerned)

    themurphy ,

    Damn, this is a really great solution. Then I could decide once if I wanted the cookies and the browser would decline/accept(lol) all from that point.

    Daft_ish ,

    Ahh a good idea. Basically guarantees it will never get done.

    dutchkimble ,

    Technically you can do this already with some firefox settings, or with extensions. Set your preference and forget.

    helmet91 ,

    Oh. Someone at the EU Commission started to use websites? 🤔

    Adanisi ,
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    What’s annoying is the “Reject” button hidden on another page. That should be illegal.

    FrederikNJS ,

    And it actually is… Quote from the GDPR:

    It shall be as easy to withdraw as to give consent.

    spirinolas ,

    The problem isn’t the law. It’s that it isn’t enforced.

    Honytawk ,

    It is enforced, but there are so many websites with so little time.

    So it takes a while. It used to be WAY worse.

    Evia ,
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    Plus the ‘legitimate interests’ of 3rd parties

    FrederikNJS ,

    Yeah, definition of “legitimate interest” is definitely being stretched well beyond it’s breaking point.

    redditReallySucks ,
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    Pretty sure it is

    018118055 ,

    Ban adtech

    uis ,
    @uis@lemmy.world avatar

    Adtech is in another US

    erranto ,

    I bet they will keep adding loopholes to keep websites bullying their visitors.

    why bother making legal frameworks when you can’t enforce them, there are hundreds of thousands of website including very prominent ones that hide the “reject all cookies” button after a second screen prompt. or flat out force you to opt-out of every second cookie category , just so you give up. they haven’t been fined. and they know EU authorities aren’t bothered either, so they keep infringing on the GDPR.

    MethodicalSpark ,

    I saw one that required you to decline every single company that was purchasing marketing data from the site. It was like 300 companies long where you had to click the slider to turn them each off individually.

    Sometimes, it’s difficult to discern which setting of the slider is on or off. They use nonstandard colors or don’t explain in text which setting signifies each option.

    BlueBockser ,

    Lawmaking is a slow and tedious process full of compromises, and the EU is apparently the only governmental body that cares enough to actually do something against the wild west of digital tracking. I for one am happy about that, and contrary to public opinion the GDPR is actually being enforced (albeit not strictly enough).

    Exosus ,

    My biggest qualm is that usually these sites won’t save it when you only allow necessary cookies. So they will ask you for every single session until you give in.

    Linkerbaan ,
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    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b7e689dc-b289-47a4-9320-76e3dfa07a64.png

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