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Merlin404 ,

How about i stop paying? Then what lol

Kbobabob ,

I guess they just cry

Merlin404 ,

True, but somewhere there most be a line, and from what ive read, more and more are closing in on that

TwilightVulpine ,

It’s not even necessarily a matter of principles, but as everything becomes more expensive people just won’t have the money to keep paying. If they think this can go forever they are mad.

Merlin404 ,

I think most companies think short term, why else would they do this? Or are they thinking that people would bend over and just take it, or both

SaltySalamander ,
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My Prime membership is up in March. I've already decided to not renew it, since they decided to cancel The Peripheral. Had I not already made that decision, this change would have made it for me anyway.

XanXic ,

And this is how I found out The Peripheral was cancelled 😭

Stay strong

mob ,

Yeah wtf. I was looking forward to season 2

KevonLooney ,

I also cancelled, mainly because “prime” shipping is meaningless now. But the addition of ads is the cherry on top.

Reverendender ,

As soon as I saw this I cancelled immediately. I’ve been a member since, um, ever?

chitak166 ,

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    OsrsNeedsF2P ,

    Wow, they even have a whole catalogue of KDramas. That’s rare.

    For anyone who wants something to watch --> fmoviesz.to/tv/crash-landing-on-you-jp1jy/1-1

    (Share your fav KDramas too!)

    Rediphile ,

    You can also torrent all movies. That way if you want to watch it again later on you don’t need to download the whole thing again like you would with streaming. Streaming is really just downloading without saving.

    chitak166 ,

    Absolutely. The problem with torrenting is that it is less-accessible to laymen.

    They need a VPN to torrent safely, which immediately cuts out most of them. They also need storage, which many of them do not know how to manage.

    Kbobabob ,

    You don’t really need that much storage to stream torrents.

    chitak166 ,

    Downloading entire seasons of shows? Yes you do, especially if you want to watch whatever you want whenever you want like with free streaming sites.

    You need to keep the layman’s perspective in mind if you want to appeal to them.

    XanXic ,

    Probably going to work. Just another company trying to wring money from their user base since they can’t reasonably grow. So many people were like “oh I’m cancelling Netflix if I can’t share it” and then it was record sign ups for them and overall more money.

    They are doing this right before The Boys comes back on and somewhat during Invincibles part 2 airing. People will be annoyed and pay the upcharge.

    And like me pirating those still won’t change much since I already was.

    Grass ,

    My parents still watch cable and the odd time I’ve seen an ad for some other service advertised as only 12/mo with ads or something like that. Is that supposed to sound good to anyone. All these shit corporations need to get fucked.

    WHYAREWEALLCAPS ,

    This has two effects. First, it is supposed to entice with a "cheap" option. Second, it normalizes ads being part of the experience.

    hperrin ,

    It’s a good thing I recently switched to piracy.

    BulbasaurBabu ,

    Ahoy matey

    KpntAutismus ,

    fuck this company, the only thing i bought on amazon was filament for my 3d-printers. now that i zeroed in on a brand, i can just buy it at their online store. goodbye amazon.

    RoseRose56 ,
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    Sometimes even local, you just have to search and find! I stopped using amazon, because I found local shopping more efficient, I order online and I pick up.

    BuddyTheBeefalo ,

    Yeah, I never thought all the people on lemmy actively support Jeff Benzos.

    USSEthernet ,

    Which brand filament did you decide on? I found that Hatchbox filament is really good and that they sell it on their site for the same price as amazon with free shipping options as well. So I just buy from their site directly now.

    samokosik ,
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    The moment when pirating a movie gives you better experience than actually paying for it.

    viking ,
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    So, always?

    EncryptKeeper ,

    No there was a period of time where it wasn’t the case.

    viking ,
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    Streaming never gave you full ownership.

    EncryptKeeper ,

    Full ownership isn’t a component of a good experience. It’s more of a security for when a good experience turns bad.

    Asudox ,
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    Great. You pay for prime but seems like it isn’t enough for amazon.

    datendefekt ,
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    Remember when Prime meant same-day shipping? Now it just means somewhat better terms than the stingy rabble.

    Got_Bent ,

    My membership is up in a week or so. I was looking into the Walmart equivalent as a replacement, but they’ve proven to be even worse. I don’t know where to go from here.

    I’m not a daily Amazon user. Maybe one or two orders per month. But when I need those things, they can be tough to find at brick and mortar.

    Chetzemoka ,

    Use Amazon as a search engine, find what you need, then Google the manufacturer and buy it directly from them. You’d be surprised how many have free shipping . It’s usually not two day shipping, but what do you really need that fast?

    If it’s electronics, buy online for local pickup at Best Buy. If it’s tools or house supplies, buy online for local pickup at Lowe’s or Home Depot. Buy online for local pickup at Target.

    I haven’t purchased anything from Amazon in 4 years. It’s honestly way easier now than it was before Amazon started, but no one realizes that because Amazon got them locked in.

    Rolando ,

    You can cancel Prime and keep your Amazon account. A lot of stuff still ships for free on orders of more than $25.

    kromem ,

    I’m getting really tired of all this enshitification.

    TwilightVulpine ,

    Now corporations start with that bulshit of “oh, that model wasn’t sustainable actually” even though it worked perfectly fine for the last decade and they still get record profits year after year. They keep ripping everything from under us, this gotta stop.

    FlavoredButtHair ,
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    Amazon wants us to learn how to safely pirate? We’ll ok if that’s what they want.

    onlinepersona ,

    Amazon Prime currently costs $14.99 each month or $139 annually. (Prime Video can be subscribed to individually for $8.99/month.) The new charge for ad-free streaming would bring Prime to just under $18, and would push standalone Prime Video to just under $12.

    So you’re going to pay for ads? Why even sell such a service?

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    Clbull , (edited )

    This may be a shocker to many of you but it costs money to produce TV shows.

    Cable was lucrative because of the subscription fees and the fact that channels could still run ads. People are now expecting to pay $10 a month for access to everything ad-free when previously they’d have to pay multiple times this amount to watch shows at scheduled times, and still sit through ad breaks. There was no such thing as an online on-demand catalogue just fifteen years ago.

    Now imagine that networks are making far less money per viewer, have to pump out shitloads of original content to keep people subscribed (and in the case of Netflix, Amazon, Hulu and others, mitigate the risk of copyright holders jacking up fees for third party content), can’t run ads to supplement their income and have to deal with huge levels of inflation because governments had to print a fucktonne of money to bail us out of a financial crisis and a global pandemic.

    Piracy has raised a generation of entitled cheapskates that refuse to pay for content, and these are the people who are most likely going to break a lot of studios and publishers.

    The only real saving grace here is that this could be the downfall of Disney, which would be a net boon for copyright reform. Disney are the core reason why US copyright law is so fucked and why we’re only now close to seeing Steamboat Willie (first Mickey Mouse cartoon from 1924) enter the public domain.

    KevonLooney ,

    Speaking of entitled cheapskates, most of the good content is older shows not new ones. Most of these streaming providers are coasting on shows and movies made before they existed.

    I don’t care about the “cost of new shows” because most of them suck. Just because you have a big CGI budget doesn’t mean you made a good show. Not only that, but good new shows are all cancelled after one or two seasons.

    The reason for this is obvious: creating a new show adds another “square” on the Netflix screen. Adding more seasons to an old show doesn’t. Plus you can advertise “new show” and people will just watch to see what it is. Viewers need to stop watching things just because they’re “new”.

    Hadriscus ,

    Capitalism is fucking the world raw every minute of every day. People will get what they can to mitigate the existentiel crisis they got plunged into. I gladly pay for concerts, cinéma and music CDs, always have. These companies make profits and fatten multimillionnaire executives while providing a poor service. I agree that we’ve gotten used to plentiful content and it’s spoiled us. What’s called for, imho, is a reimagination of distribution schemes and redistribution of wealth. I want actors paid a normal wage, more public funding of cinéma (or at all, depending on the country) and semi-public platforms that don’t seek profit. To give an example of what I mean, there is madelen.ina.fr which is an archive of french tv and cinéma, accessible for 3€ a month, existing under the umbrella of the INA (national institute of tv)

    whofearsthenight , (edited )

    Piracy is not even close to the reason any of the streamers are struggling, and even then I’d be surprised to see if Amazon was actually struggling. Piracy itself is a rounding error, and is more of a function of the shitty way that most of the streamers run their business.

    There is a lot going on:

    Lots of these streamers, and especially Amazon, keep green lighting projects with massive budgets but then forgetting to tell a good story or hire people who seem interested in making the show they’re making. Rings of Power and Wheel of Time have insane budgets for what are generously mediocre shows. I can’t even imagine the pitch meeting for WoT. “I want to take a massively beloved cornerstone of the fantasy genre that spans 14 gigantic books and a few novellas, turn it into a TV show with 8 ep seasons, make a ton of changes to the story and lore that is sure to piss off the audience that is most likely to generate word of mouth for us, and for the low, low price of like a billion dollars. You should trust me with this money because I worked on 2 seasons of the hit show (that was on the edge of cancellation basically it’s entire run) Agents of SHIELD and a streaming show on Netflix that was canceled after one season.” By pretty much any measure, this is an insane set of decisions.

    This is everywhere - The Witcher, Halo, Star Trek: Discovery (and most of Picard), Secret Invasion, Book of Boba Fett, just about every goddamn “blockbuster” Netflix attempts. It’s either they take a beloved IP and decide to do something entirely different and usually not even good-different (has anyone that worked on Halo even seen an xbox?) or they set up a project with a pitch like “Ryan Reynolds is a big star, Fast and the Furious is a big franchise, make a movie with Ryan and cars or whatever.” Insert meme of the guy getting thrown out of the window for asking “does it need a plot?”

    The existence of half of these streamers in general belie the real issues. You can’t tell me that Paramount+ or Peacock should even exist. The whole premise of these goddamn things is “people want to watch 20-40 year old re-runs of Star Trek and Seinfeld, I bet we can charge $15 in perpetuity for that as long as we sprinkle in the occasional new show that makes a point to let our audience know we hate them for liking these shows.”

    It’s just a massively, massively mismanaged business on basically every level. Ads is the latest in this fiasco. They should be either small, cheap networks that make a lot of small budget shows, or if they’re going to take some big swings they might want to have a proven strategy of any sort. Quite a lot of the shows that found massive success were made for basically the change you find in the couch cushions. A show like Friends probably cost about $7 for the first season, and didn’t balloon until later seasons when the cast was each making a decent amount and every other episode had a major guest star. Most sci-fi until very recently was extremely cheap. Carter: Sir, we’ve arrived on the planet, looks like the MALP was accurate. O’Neill: It’s really weird how most of the planets we visit look like the woods in Vancouver, BC. Even Game of Thrones which probably started this arms race of spending, didn’t start getting $20+ million budgets until it was a massive, massive hit (worth noting how that show tried to stick closely to the source and didn’t start to suck until they ran out of book) and even then that would be seen as “cheap” compared to a lot of these.

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