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jimrob4 ,

As noted in the link provided by Nougat, the title of this post is completely inaccurate. YouTube is banning instructional videos on how to make guns full auto, homemade silencers, ghost guns, etc, and links to websites where you can buy them or the parts to do it.

Once again, in the case of the linked video, this is just hyped-up nonsense by irresponsible gun owners.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

good. they should ban gun related content in any video not just ads.

Auzy ,

Good. I literally was suggested a video the other day on building your own gun. Gee, I wonder who would want an untraceable gun…

It’s only normal for Americans to think they’re toys.

It’s not normal for kids to go shooting, and it’s not normal to own one.

Here in Australia, you’re not allowed to own one for self defence.

And it’s not normal for make entire YouTube channels for them

SpicyLizards ,

Wow, school shootings, no probs. Big trump hurt his ear, fucking panic!

deranger ,

Why did you editorialize the title? They’re not banning “all gun related content”, it’s ads/sponsorships that are affected.

GooseFinger ,

Which includes practically all gun related content lol.

Most gun channels make their income from sponsors, who are companies in the firearms industry.

This is just Google’s latest act of garbage, over-reaching, corpo censorship. Fuck em.

iAmTheTot ,

Over reaching? It’s their platform.

knightly ,
@knightly@pawb.social avatar

It shouldn’t be. Youtube could have been a public good but instead it’s for-profit.

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

Use an open source option instead? Open source is a public good.

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joinpeertube.org/browse-content

FartsWithAnAccent ,
@FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io avatar

RIP Forgotten Weapons

Fecundpossum ,

Forgotten weapons will be fine, someone just sensationalized. Shocker. Read the policy for yourself. YouTube is disallowing certain content related to selling or altering firearms. Like, installing bump stocks or binary triggers. Muh Hickok 45 and the like will be just fine.

Skanky ,

Not exactly. YT just banned the practice of being sponsored by gun-related companies. I don’t think Hickock or gun Jesus uses sponsorships, but many others do (DemoRanch for sure)

PhobosAnomaly ,

I thought Gun Jesus was trying to pivot to other streaming platform for his main content, and YouTube was just a bit of extra exposure while it lasts?

I haven’t been keeping up with it so I may be 12 months behind the curve.

MiDaBa ,

Unless we’re disallowing guns in video games, movies, books, plays or on the internet in general then this is a waste of time.

conditional_soup ,

This is a mixed bag. Where I get lukewarm is that I’m convinced it’s going to come down to a shooting fight with the fascists at some point, and I’d rather that the people who are not fascists be able to educate and arm themselves appropriately. Don’t bring sticks and bricks to a gun fight and all that.

giantofthenorth ,

If you are anti gun you are short sided and on the side of authoritarianism.

sunzu ,

American's don't understand what this means, they have not been recently invaded.

KevonLooney ,

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sunzu ,

Can't tell your angle but yeah exactly. Americans are not aware that there are other countries with gun cultures and they don't suffer idiots with guns, at least not as much.

This has a lot to do with American degenerate gun culture but admitting that would open a can of worms nobody wants to deal with. So yeah, lets do regulatory circle circle about regulating guns with 2AM as elephant tin the room but whatever we do we won't enforce regulations on the books or educate people on proper gun culture.

lproven ,
@lproven@vivaldi.net avatar

@giantofthenorth @Mazoku

(1) You are totally wrong.

(2) The expression is "short-sighted", Einstein.

Nougat ,

Maybe he's saying that those people have an unusually short distance between their armpits and their hips?

theshatterstone54 ,

I’m getting Youtube ads even with over half of my extensions being YT-specific, Newpipe works less and less often, I’m just sick of it.

I’m getting ever closer to getting rid of YT forever.

Nougat ,

YouTube Firearms Policy

Rossman apparently doesn't know how to read.

deranger , (edited )

OP editorialized the title.

ZapBeebz_ ,

Yeah they did. My reading of the policy is that YouTube does not allow content that shows off legally dubious (or outright banned in any state) accessories, and does not allow firearms in live streams (because shit can and often does go wrong, and live censoring isn’t really a thing). Teaching firearm safety is still very much allowed.

SlippiHUD ,
@SlippiHUD@lemmy.world avatar

It probably has nothing to do with the Russian description in their YouTube link /s https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/74b608bb-b319-475a-a3eb-19526fcdcbb3.jpeg

Aradina ,

That’s a lemmy or youtube issue. It’s in French for me. The unfurl data includes localizations and the wrong one is being displayed.

Nougat ,

Maybe OP did that, but that's exactly what Rossman is saying in the video.

deranger ,

He’s not, I watched the video.

Nougat ,

You must have watched some other video than I watched then. He blathers about (paraphrasing) "if you link to any firearm accessory, even a holster, they will delete the video and your channel." That's just not true.

metaStatic ,

As long as StyroPyro is still able to show us how to use microwave transformers to create death rays I'm fine with the actual weapons industry losing a source of advertising.

BombOmOm ,
@BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

Making it harder for firearm education, use, handling and entertainment videos to be on the most popular video platform is not a positive step. The resources people have to safely handle and use firearms has now diminished.

JohnOliver ,

Maybe people shouldn’t learn to handle guns on YouTube.

UberMentch ,

Yeah, learn it from a textbook!

nondescripthandle ,

And now many people won’t learn it at all. But here’s the secret, those people will still get guns, their parents still have guns and don’t give a fuck about safety. Now they have no choice but to learn from their parents. This is not the win you think it is.

This is comparable to abstinence only education. Ignoring teaching how to safely handle yourself because it goes over ‘scary’ topics has never made us safer.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Gee it’s almost like we should make sure folks know about how to handle firearms without relying on their own curiosity

BrianTheeBiscuiteer ,

As a liberal that doesn’t own or care to own guns I’m quite fine with gun safety being taught in schools (i.e. by licensed professionals, not a random teacher). Guns are an unavoidable aspect of our society for now and I’d feel better if my kids knew about the seriousness of handling a gun and how they’re not toys.

Regarding the topic at hand with YouTube I disagree with a complete ban of gun videos but all videos should come with clear disclaimers.

nondescripthandle ,

If the second amendment is a right then imo education should be the states responsibility and financial burden. In an ideal world anyway. However removing free education materials without anything like that in it’s place isn’t going to make anyone safer.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

I’m okay with that, actually. Start with teaching kids in preschool that if they find a gun they shouldn’t touch it and should tell an adult, impressing upon kids the danger of guns, and finally ending with marksmanship training.

Then cut the military budget by 90%.

If we’re gonna have a rifle behind every blade of grass they should be crack shots.

nondescripthandle ,

For my friends that are curious I make sure to take them shooting because I know I’m capable of teaching proper safety and maintaining as safe an environment you can for that, and, like you alluded to, if there’s a gun behind every blade of grass, you really should understand how they work and what their limits are or you risk not having enough information to make good decisions in situations with firearms present. Like imagine trying to cross a road if you had no idea how cars worked at all. Universal education around guns alone would save lives even with no other changes.

IllNess ,

Dude. I just want to learn how to clean a certain firearm. I already took a gun safety class.

Tak ,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

Capitalism has deemed your desire to learn is no longer profitable and therefore unsupported.

I’d say you can just wait for the gun makers to create said media but the only media they like funding is white supremacy shit.

Hugh_Jeggs ,

influential role models teaching firearm safety

Nobody in modern society needs a gun, other than hunters and farmers.

They’re not influential, they’re cowards promoting gun ownership to protect themselves against other cowards

unexposedhazard ,

Also maybe cops, soldiers and security guards.

SpaceNoodle ,

Are we training our police with YouTube videos? That would explain a lot.

sunzu ,

No, we would have better police if we did.

deranger ,

Considering the firearms hobbyists on YouTube are significantly more competent with a firearm than a fucking police trainer, this would improve things.

Vendetta9076 ,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

Are you a troll or are you actually this stupid in real life too?

rumschlumpel ,

What about gun adverts? YouTube has a terrible track record for policing its advertising content.

sunzu ,

I like to read books, that's why I got this lambo!

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