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firefly ,
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They've been promising quantum computers for three decades with zilch results. I've lost count of how many times and how many startups and even major market players claimed to have working quantum computers, which of course to this day are all just smoke and mirrors.

They've been promising artificial intelligence for three decades with zilch results. Then they redefined what AI means to get venture capital pointing the money hose at it. Now people think a glorified autocomplete and grammar engine is 'artificial intelligence.'

I'll believe it when I see it.

kyub ,

“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary funding evidence.”

eleitl ,

Thesis: g-ram.github.io/files/gobieski_thesis.pdf

HaywardT ,

Seems like it uses a bunch of pipelines that are also cross connected. Pretty interesting idea.

mindlight ,

So Intel, Apple, every other company that develops ARM based processors, AMD and Nvidia has just missed this technology ?

We’re talking about trillions of dollars in just R’n’D investments and this technology just flew under the radar?

If it sounds too good to be true, it is probably too good to be true.

Faceman2K23 ,
@Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Usually means “yes this works in theory but only for very specific operations at limited scales that aren’t all that important so it’s not worth pursuing seriously”

Mora ,

Maybe. But the blue LED was also deemed impossible by a lot of big companies. And then a guy build one. Very interesting video on that topic: youtu.be/AF8d72mA41M

Nomecks ,

It probably runs a completely custom instruction set which makes it incompatible with current architectures. Current manufacturers are designing chips that are operable with popular instruction sets.

caseyweederman ,

I’d write it myself if it was a hundred times faster

caseyweederman ,

I mean
Big companies tend to “innovate” by buying market-disrupting startups and squashing the life out of them so they wouldn’t need to compete

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

What about power and heat?

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

The article says that this architecture uses significantly less power which would mean producing less heat as well.

SuiXi3D ,
@SuiXi3D@fedia.io avatar

Efficient, not fast. Just means it’ll sip power as opposed to guzzling it.

Faceman2K23 ,
@Faceman2K23@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I mean, we know the absolute limits of computational efficiency thanks to the Landauer limit and the Margolus–Levitin theorem, and from those we know that we are so far from the limits that it is practically unfathomable.

If they can show some evidence that they can perform useful calculations 100x more efficiently than whatever they chose to compare against (definitely a cherry picked comparison) then I’ll give them my attention, but others have made similar claims in the past then turned out to be in extremely specific algorithms that use quantum calculations that are of course slower and less efficient on any traditional computer.

yogthos OP ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

I’d like to see these chips benchmarked in the wild as well before getting too excited, but the claims aren’t that implausible. Incidentally, this approach is why M series chips are so much faster than x86 ones. Apple uses SoC architecture which eliminates the need for the bus, and they process independent instructions in parallel on multiple cores. And they’re just building that on existing ARM architecture. So, it’s not implausible that a chip and a compiler designed for this sort of parallelism from ground up could see a huge performance boost.

krolden ,
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Thats not why Apple silicon is faster. Every modern mobile device uses a SoC these days.

yogthos OP , (edited )
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

It is very much part of the reason it’s faster than the traditional x86 architecture with a bus, which is what I was talking about. Here’s a good summary for you archive.is/DtT7c

krolden ,
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

Sorry I thought you meant its more efficient just because its a SoC.

velox_vulnus ,

Our processors are 100x more efficient than state-of-the-art low-power CPUs. A single AA battery can power our processors for up to a decade

That’s some really extraordinary claim.

flambonkscious ,

It’s so ridiculous I’m not even going to bother with the article

velox_vulnus ,

In their defence, there are a few research papers on their site with respect to the startup. I’ve not read it yet, but it might probably be legit, given how most of the founding members are from ivy-league universities.

flambonkscious ,

Huh… We’ll see, I guess

LostXOR ,

An AA battery has around 10kJ of energy; spread over a decade that's 31 microwatts of power. No way they're doing useful computations with that.

becausechemistry ,

A single AA battery is going to discharge itself just sitting on the shelf over a decade

simple ,

Claims don’t make any sense if there isn’t any benchmark.

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s called Efficient Computer. That increases the veracity of the efficiency claims by at least three thousand.

authed ,

so you think they claimed that and didn’t do any testing?

wagesj45 ,
@wagesj45@kbin.run avatar

Maybe

authed ,

Would you believe faked benchmarks? They are pretty damn easy to fake.

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