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Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 2x05 "Charades"

LoglineA shuttle accident leads to Spock’s Vulcan DNA being removed by aliens, making him fully human and completely unprepared to face T’Pring’s family during an important ceremonial dinner.

Written by Kathryn Lyn & Henry Alonso Myers

Directed by Jordan Canning

cybervseas ,

Good for Ethan Peck. It’s like when Brent Spiner got to play Lore or Doctor Soong and express himself through other characters. Human Spock is basically another character. It would be nice to see him again some day.

famousringo ,

Chapel killed Hupock. That monster!

khaosworks ,
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Annotations up at startrek.website/post/353200

erbazzone ,

I was not a fan of the spock chapel love story but this episode was def a banger

lwaxana_katana ,

I really don’t understand why they have to do this whole Chapel/Spock thing. :( I like T’Pring more.

UESPA_Sputnik ,
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Maybe it’s finally time for Star Trek to boldly go … for polyamory.

ThrowawayInTheYear23 , (edited )

Giggity Giggity and some feelings for La’an.

IonAddis ,
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She’s a human with restrained emotions. I’m not surprised he’d feel a bit of something for her.

Hypersapien ,

Because it’s been a thing since the '60s

brandoncarey , (edited )
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@Hypersapien @lwaxana_katana

To be fair, TOS didn't really go hard on Spock+Chapel, but even being a doofus kid, I shipped it.

Hypersapien ,

EVERYONE shipped it. Erotic fan fics have been around for a LONG time.

Of course, most of them involved Spock and Kirk.

Lockely ,
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Didn’t Naked Time have Chapel literally profess her love for Spock?

UESPA_Sputnik , (edited )
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“This is irregular. A complaint outside the response period.” - those aliens are Germans. 😄

Great episode. Just the right amount of whackiness to not make it too ludicrous. And it wasn’t just comedy, at its core this episode had a human heart - no pun intended - with Spock connecting to his mother’s burden.

One thing that I realized, once again, is that I don’t really know what Una’s job on the Enterprise really is. She’s barely doing anything. You’d expect her to accompany the away team at the end of the episode (or did they steal the shuttle, now that they know how to steal the Enterprise). For an XO she’s barely noticeable. This isn’t a complaint about this episode, it’s a thread that runs throughout the series.

To end on a positive note: can those costume designers finally get an award please? The outfits on this show are always so stunning.

Edit: I just realized that the episode was written by Kathryn Lyn who also wrote one of Lower Decks’ funniest episodes, “wej Duj”. She seems to become Star Trek’s go-to gal for comedy.

Madison_rogue ,
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The most XO thing that Una has done throughout the entire series run is question junior officers about Enterprise Bingo.

Seriously though as a former sailor I can verify that an XO's job is tedious and boring. It's all paperwork, inspections, and disciplinary crap outside of Captain's Mast (yet an XO does most the work for that before a CO sees anything). The bulk of Una storytelling that we've seen is pretty great. Ortega is the one who needs to shine at this point. She hasn't had much story development.

triktrek ,

Edit: I just realized that the episode was written by Kathryn Lyn who also wrote one of Lower Decks’ funniest episodes, “wej Duj”. She seems to become Star Trek’s go-to gal for comedy.

Makes perfect sense when you realize that T’Lyn (named after her) was another passive aggressive Vulcan that provides comic relief was introduced in “wej Duj”.

SkaveRat ,

It’s insane how a series can be so good

AuroraBorealis ,
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Ethan peck looked like he had a blast with this episode, screaming into a towel is a mood

I also enjoyed the “subservient” dad who really just wanted to eat good food and play charades but was shot down :'( but then the captain gave him leftovers with a cool snap :)

Also, as a meta comment, I really dislike the scenes where it’s clear they are just I don’t of the LED wall. It looks so fake and the actors just stand there in an obviously empty room. Season 1 of SNW had at least one episode of this, and season 1 of the mandalorian did too, and they really need to follow the mandalorian example.abkut having actual physical props in addition to the LED wall to prevent it from looking fake as hell

triktrek ,

Regarding the LED wall, yeah, it was more obvious here. It felt like they were entering one of those gimmicky project-Van-Gogh-art-on-a-warehouse-wall tourist traps.

The episode where Uhura and Hemmer were trapped in the engine room was another one that stood out.

qantravon ,

Actually, I think they were in one of those places, given this post:

www.instagram.com/p/Cupdh9eAWf-/?igshid=Y2IzZGU1M…

Lockely ,
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The last episode on Rigel VII was shot in front of the Holodeck (what the call Trek’s AR Wall) and it was breathtakingly good. The emptiness was likely part of the point with this species.

koreth ,

The AR wall was obvious but it doesn’t bother me that much. Environments that require active suspension of disbelief have been a Star Trek staple since the 1960s.

shirro ,

Having grown up watching matte paintings, shaky plywood sets, bubble wrap monsters and people running up and down the same corridor repeatedly and then decades of soulless bad CGI I have nothing bad to say about modern productions standards. There is something special and human about the artistry of matte paintings, scale models and physical sets but I don’t know that today’s viewers have the same capacity for suspension of disbelief. LED walls allow some story telling that would otherwise be to expensive to visualise.

BIGxChedda ,

Where all the comments

triktrek ,

Make sure to set your language settings to both UNDETERMINED and ENGLISH. It’s some Lemmy bug.

FormerGameDev ,

looks like it’s a particularly horrible intentional design decision

jalanhenning ,
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I had to go to my settings and click English to see them. Apparently I just had Undetermined. (I hope you can see this!)

triktrek ,

Make sure to select both.

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