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hmancuso ,
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Not for any particular reason, but for a variety of reasons that work together to make it even better. I have listed just a few of them. Feel free to add to the list as you see fit.

  • No king of the hill.
  • No hidden corporate interests.
  • No karma system.
  • Rejection of toxicity. The flow of conversation is civil and has a good vibe.
  • The Federation functions as an engine of accountability.
  • A bunch of people who actively contribute to making this a good place.
  • A vocal community that actually determines what content is important.
  • The initial difficulty to make sense of it all (call it a "barrier to entry" if you will) acts as a natural deterrent to those who are less engaged.
  • Lurkers who sign up quickly feel comfortable posting.
  • The ability to sign up for a particular instance and leave if for some reason you find it's going in a direction you do not agree with. Lemmy's decentralized nature saves the day.
  • The influx of refugees includes experienced people with a lot of knowledge to make this an even better place.
  • The prospect of a quick release of reputable third-party apps. Since these developers bring solid knowledge from previous developments, their new Lemmy apps will immediately translate into a smoother user experience.

I am looking forward to great days ahead.

diabolic_seagull ,

it’s probably just me but I would do away with downvoting as well.

ShittyKopper ,

There are instances that disable downvotes. github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances has a field saying if an instance has them enabled or not.

bxyrk ,

MORE reasons to enjoy the federated aspect. I am ALL for each instance having their own rules and protocol. I’m not a fan of removing the down voting but the fact that it is something that can be chosen by a group feels really good to me.

magicmuggle ,

why would you want that? out of interest?

diabolic_seagull ,

case in point, opinions are downvoted to oblivion for no reason other than disagreement. so much for discourse.

magicmuggle ,

It isn’t for no reason other than that. Granted, that is a reason. However, without a clear ratio of upvotes to downvotes, there’s no differentiating between good vs bad. YouTube removed their dislike button, but you can still see how many views a video has. If a video has 1m views but like 3k likes, you can see a ratio there. On here, there’s no ‘views’ per comment. So a use case would be that, say I posted something objectively false that supported a narrative. If others come along and support the same narrative and upvoted it, that post would look relatively credible. Downvotes allows for democratic running of social media. Which is what Reddit once was, and what lemmy is trying to be.

I know it’s a shit thing to say, but if your posts always get downvoted to oblivion, it’s probably moreso you that’s got a skewed outlook vs everyone else. (Not you as in you but you as in the general person)

Piers ,

Personally I’m against that as it can allow controversial content to look the same as universally supported content.

czarrie ,
@czarrie@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t forget the free ice cream when you signed up this week.

…you guys did get the free ice cream, right? It was on the sign up page and everything?

starclaude ,

do you have any youtube video that can explain fediverse, lemmy, etc so far the explanation video i have found is already old and not that clear for me

hmancuso ,
@hmancuso@lemmy.world avatar

Try these:

  1. www.youtube.com/watch?v=5axSUJj0bBY
  2. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y33T1-IuAqs
  3. www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8fBSrhHrE8 (How-to guide)

Hope that helps.

theyseemeroland ,

This has such a nice community message board feel to it.

son_named_bort ,

It helps that it’s a fairly small community, which gives it an old school internet forum vibe. Hopefully it retains this vibe as the site continues to grow.

GatoB ,

I hope

Veltoss ,

I’ve been on the internet long enough to say it won’t. It will last a long time depending on the design of the system that creates the communities (mods, upvotes/downvotes, rules, algorithms, etc), but even that is limited because eventually every community reaches the size it needs to to encourage toxicity, echo chambers, circlejerks, and attracting even more toxic people from outside the communities.

It took reddit many years to start reaching that point though, I hope it takes these federated sites longer. And hopefully due to their design, they can keep most of the toxic people isolated.

samokosik ,
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Especially the growth part would be nice at this point of time

FinalBoy1975 ,

It reminds me of internet forums of the days of yore that are long gone. People answering each other’s questions. No need for moderators to have rules like, “don’t call each other names” blah blah blah. It’s kind of funny, but you know, the Internet had a dark age when everyone was nicer to each other. Lemmy brings that kind of social interaction back to the fore. In another stream, someone disagreed with me and did it nicely and I learned something. Give me more of THIS. And give me less of people replying with “this”

cypherix93 ,

this

isdfoa ,

Exactly!

PorqueNoLosDildos ,

So this

FinalBoy1975 ,

damn i’ll let you do this because you get me

aStonedSanta ,

Browsing forums as a 12 year old and finding the piracy forums was quite an eye opening experience. Such friendly fellows also.

Lunar ,
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The reason is federation. People actually happen to be pretty good at holding each other accountable and self-regulating when there isn't a central authority deciding what is and isn't acceptable. Bad actors naturally gravitate toward the instances that welcome them, and then the rest of us defederate from those instances to maintain the peace. Those bad instances then stagnate or fizzle out from the inactivity.

On centralized social media, what stays and goes isn't dictated by the community but a handful of people at the top, and troublemakers are often given a bigger platform than they would have had otherwise.

Mastadon is a lot bigger and older than Lemmy is, and yet it still has the same vibe as this place.

scarabic ,

So instances choose which instances to federate with? Does this mean that if my account is on lemmy.world that I’m seeing a selection of what that instance’s owners choose?

RicardoDev ,

Other way around most of the time. Instances choose who to defederate with. If you view all posts instead of local You’ll see posts across the fediverse so long as the instance owner hasn’t defederated. Defederation is also a pretty nuclear option so it’s generally not taken lightly.

rimlogger ,

Lemmy.world is a bit slow for me RN but given the immense growth on Lemmy, it’s to be expected. I’m still on Reddit but hopefully I get to see more niche content here! I read /r/CredibleDefense and /r/CombatFootage, would be great if they were on Lemmy too.

jugalator ,

Yeah, votes are slow for me now (5 seconds until a vote “registers” in the UI), but somehow loading entire posts with their comment chains is fast.

MindfuckRocketship ,

Same earlier. It’s smooth for me now though. Very responsive. Seems like the server upgrade paid off.

Edit: Posting replies is still buggy and slow but that’s to be expect so early on.

GatoB ,

Maybe is because there are like servers for some actions but I am not sure of how that works

Cornpop ,

Amen! It’s a little slow but I’m perfectly fine with that! Everyone here is vibing for sure!

GatoB ,

Yeah, nice vibes

Quercus001 ,
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I understand where you are coming from! Plus it is interesting to be here a bit early before the whole platform gets really popular.

GatoB ,

Try promoting the place, I promoted and I think some people joined because of that

RickySmith ,

I think it’s early tech adopters are just excited about something nice and will play nice to try to hero it grow. I remember the early internet being a really nice place.

It’ll get ruined soon enough.

Shadywack ,
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Instances can get ruined, sure, but the decentralized nature means ruination has to focus on the Fediverse. It remains to be seen how it will get ruined. Like the Reddit honeymoon after Digg’s collapse, we get to watch this be the hero until it becomes the villain.

Spacebar ,
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Reddit is too popular and has too much group think, too many of the same types of comments that will get a lot karma, and too many comments that will just be ignored.

NEW is a garbage dump or a pile of duplicates. So why comment on a new post? It will never go anywhere. HOT is already full of comments, so your comment will just be lost.

Voytrekk ,
@Voytrekk@lemmy.world avatar

Agreed. On reddit each community has one way it thinks and screw you if you don't have the same opinion on something. People here are more civil and willing to have a discussion over disagreements.

fulano ,

Do upvotes and downvotes work the same way here? If so, I fear that communities may become echo chambers too, in time.

Spacebar ,
@Spacebar@lemmy.world avatar

In a post and comment, yes. However your up vote vs down vote counts are not stored on your profile. It reduces the game-ification of the interactions.

sab , (edited )

It also depends where you're reading from. Mastodon doesn't sort at all, Kbin sorts differently from Lemmy, and one Lemmy instance might differ from the next. Even vote counts might differ between servers.

In the end, the user experience here will be much more individual than on Reddit. What is the top post for you might not be the top post for me. :)

usualsuspect191 ,

I’m already noticing tons of comments getting down voted for seemingly just because people disagree so human nature makes a proper discussion difficult

themadcodger ,
@themadcodger@kbin.social avatar

They don't have the same power over here. Especially on kbin where they pretty much equal "thank you for posting" and that's about it. Boosting is where you become the algorithm and say "I think others need to see this!"

miraclerandy ,

Agreed. I felt like I lurked reddit a lot because I felt like my thought was already found wherever I went unless I was the first one to comment. It’s nice to see a comment section that is growing but not thousands of other thoughts already in it within an hour or so.

lucidwielder , (edited )

I just hope the alt right doesn’t latch on - but w/ this being the Fediverse we can at least use reason & spin them off in their own little corner.. for better or worse. (Better for us & worse for them)

I don’t know what else is the answer though - they either drag us down w/ them or we rise above it & leave them to wallow in their messed up world views.

If this turns into an Odysee then this will be a very sad place built w/ good intentions.

Reorder9543 ,
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I haven’t really looked at Odysee. I feel like I’ve seen some Linux Youtubers mention that they post videos there too. What’s bad about it?

FizzOnMyJayce ,

Still getting used to all the different servers/instances but it’s promising

RealFknNito ,
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

Personally, and I am bias, I think everyone here is nice and chill because everyone who actually dropped Reddit are principled enough to not just say they hate a change and then do nothing about it.

AtHeartEngineer ,
@AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, exactly. The people that want a better Internet, my kinda people.

MindfuckRocketship ,

I think you’re spot on. Loving this new home. Here’s to a bright future in the Fediverse.

gon ,
@gon@lemmy.world avatar

METAposting I see

LucidDreamer ,

Oh, this is actually what I clicked and not a baseball post

we_were_never_here ,

Realistically, this is one of the reasons Lemmy is so good right now. The masses generally don’t put up with alpha software. Honestly, I like it this way. Improvements are good, but there’s something about seeing something grow and develop

sarcasticsunrise ,
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I know fuck all about coding and software but THIS IS THE ONE. It feels really neat being nestled in the foundation of something that’s somehow already cozy. Only visiting that other site to mark which sub FORUMS might migrate over here

NippleFarts ,

Wassup lemmy gang

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