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LittleWizard ,

I hate writing xml with a passion

toastal ,

Balisage Paper: Fat Markup: Trimming the Fat Markup Myth one calorie at a time

www.balisage.net/…/BalisageVol10-Lee01.html

XML is a fine format in comparison to JSON.

Takumidesh ,

I hate writing and reading xml compared to json, I don’t really care if one is slightly leaner than the other. If your concern is the size or speed you should probably be rethinking how you serialize the data anyway (orotobuff/DB)

skullgiver ,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

Don’t drink the JSON coolaid. XML is fine. Better, in many cases, because XML files actually support comments.

In the modern programming world, XML is just JSON before JSON was cool. There was a whole hype about XML for a few years, which is why old programming tools are full of XML.

It’s funny but sad to see the JSON ecosystem scramble to invent all of the features that XML already had. Even ActivityPub runs on “external entities but stored as general purpose strings”, and don’t get me started on the incompatible, incomplete standards for describing a JSON schema.

It’s not just XML either, now there’s cap’n proto and protobuf and bson which are all just ASN.1 but “cool”.

Landless2029 ,

That’s my biggest peev about JSON actually. No comments!! WTH!

nekusoul ,
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

On one hand I agree, on the other hand I just know that some people would immediately abuse it and put relevant data into comments.

Feathercrown ,

This is why there are none, but I still think it’s dumb. Parsers can’t see comments anyways.

schnurrito ,

do they do that in xml? never seen that

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

There’s comments in the specs and a bunch of parsers that actually inore //

tetris11 ,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar 

<span style="color:#323232;">{ "key": "six",
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  "value": 6,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">  "comment": "6 is a bad number. Use five." }
</span>
schnurrito ,

IMHO: XML is a file format, JSON is a data transfer format. Reinventing things like RSS or SVG to use JSON wouldn’t be helpful, but using XML to communicate between your app’s frontend and backend wouldn’t be either.

sik0fewl ,

We were using XML for that before JSON.

schnurrito ,

Yes and it is a good thing we don’t anymore.

Fubarberry ,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

AI is starting to get really smart

expatriado ,

stuff like this is how reddit found out their users comments were being used 😂

renzev OP ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/93e5fea7-ed29-4171-8142-81dcac21b1e8.png

lord_ryvan ,

I’m sorry which LLM is this? What are its settings? How’d you get that out of it?

And how did it give sources?

renzev OP ,

I’m sorry which LLM is this?

It’s perplexity.ai. I like it because it doesn’t require an account and because it can search the internet. It’s like microsoft’s bing but slightly less cringe.

How’d you get that out of it?

The screenshot is fake. I used Inspect Element.

lord_ryvan ,

perplexity.ai

Like DuckDuckGo’s AI’s, but with sources? Sounds cool, thanks!

fake

Ah… Too bad (:

renzev OP ,

Never knew that ddg had an LLM, will check it out. Thanks!

lord_ryvan ,

It’s a proxy for a number of LLMs of choice, prompts anonymised before they’re sent. A bit like how their search engine is anonymised Bing, or how their maps are anonymised Apple Maps. I’m happy with the service!

SzethFriendOfNimi ,
@SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not a waste of time… it’s a waste of space. But it does allow you to “enforce” some schema. Which, very few people use that way and so, as a data store using JSON works better.

Or… we could go back to old school records where you store structs with certain defined lengths in a file.

You know what? XML isn’t looking so bad now.

If you want to break the AI ask instead what regex you should use to parse HTML.

gregor ,

a wate of time

BlackEco ,
@BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com avatar

RSS/ATOM has to be the best thing to come out of XML

toothpaste_sandwich ,

Wow, that’s a very passive aggressive reaction. I enjoyed a lot.

SkyNTP ,

This is what happens when stack overflow is used for training.

Agent641 ,

Not long before AI just tells me to google it, or read the manual.

Batman ,

A word document is xml

renzev OP ,

zipped xml!

Batman ,

The future if text documents were Json:

City_pic.png.xml

clb92 ,

Lots or file formats are just zipped XML.

I was reverse engineering fucking around with the LBX file format for our Brother label printer’s software at work, because I wanted to generate labels programmatically, and they’re zipped XML too. Terrible format, LBX, really annoying to work with. The parser in Brother P-Touch Editor is really picky too. A string is 1 character longer or shorter than the length you defined in an attribute earlier in the XML? “I’ve never seen this file format in my life,” says P-Touch Editor.

SzethFriendOfNimi ,
@SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds like it’s actually using XSLT

annoyed_onion ,
@annoyed_onion@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, it’s not wrong…

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