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0laura ,

The people here don’t get LLMs and it shows. This is neither surprising nor a bad thing imo.

krashmo ,

In what way is presenting factually incorrect information as if it’s true not a bad thing?

14th_cylon ,

Maybe in a “it is not going to steal our job… yet” way.

krashmo ,

True but if we suddenly invent an AI that can replace most jobs I think the rich have more to worry about than we do.

ech ,

Boy, your face is red like a strawbrerry.

Boomkop3 ,

Stwawberry

Beanie ,

Strawbery

aoidenpa ,

Strawbery

crusty ,

Strawbery

LEONHART ,

I instinctively read that in Homestar Runner’s voice.

Asafum ,

A humorous follow up response would be “sure, here’s another question: How the hell did they think you were ready to be utilized?”

The only correct answer: “I can answer that for you! The reason they thought I was ready to be utilized by the general public is because money!”

tourist ,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

Is there anything else or anything else you would like to discuss? Perhaps anything else?

Anything else?

homesweethomeMrL ,

Jesus hallucinatin’ christ on a glitchy mainframe.

I’m assuming it’s real though it may not be but - seriously, this is spellcheck. You know how long we’ve had spellcheck? Over two hundred years.

This? This is what’s thrown the tech markets into chaos? This garbage?

Fuck.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

I was just thinking about Microsoft Word today, and how it still can’t insert pictures easily.

This is a 20+ year old problem for a program that was almost completely functional in 1995.

cypherix93 ,

“strawberry”.split(‘’).filter(c => c === ‘r’).length

SpaceNoodle ,

len([c if c == ‘r’ for c in “strawberry”])

tiefling ,

‘strawberry’.match(/r/ig).length

Anticorp ,

Are you implying that it’s running a function on the word and then giving a length value for a zero indexed array?

schnurrito ,

This is hardly programmer humor… there is probably an infinite amount of wrong responses by LLMs, which is not surprising at all.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

I don’t know, programs are kind of supposed to be good at counting. It’s ironic when they’re not.

Funny, even.

stevedidwhat_infosec ,

You’ve discovered an artifact!! Yaaaay

If you ask GPT to do this in a more math questiony way, itll break it down and do it correctly. Just gotta narrow top_p and temperature down a bit

CodexArcanum ,

I was curious if (since these are statistical models and not actually counting letters) maybe this or something like it is a common “gotcha” question used as a meme on social media. So I did a search on DDG and it also has an AI now which turned up an interestingly more nuanced answer.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/883cf1b0-39c9-45ec-9df9-f476d9ac3480.jpeg

It’s picked up on discussions specifically about this problem in chats about other AI! The ouroboros is feeding well! I figure this is also why they overcorrect to 4 if you ask them about “strawberries”, trying to anticipate a common gotcha answer to further riddling.

DDG correctly handled “strawberries” interestingly, with the same linked sources. Perhaps their word-stemmer does a better job?

sus ,

many words should run into the same issue, since LLMs generally use less tokens per word than there are letters in the word. So they don’t have direct access to the letters composing the word, and have to go off indirect associations between “strawberry” and the letter “R”

duckassist seems to get most right but it claimed “ouroboros” contains 3 o’s and “phrasebook” contains one c.

glimse ,

Copilot may be a stupid LLM but the human in the screenshot used an apostrophe to pluralize which, in my opinion, is an even more egregious offense.

It’s incorrect to pluralizing letters, numbers, acronyms, or decades with apostrophes in English. I will now pass the pedant stick to the next person in line.

homesweethomeMrL ,

I salute your pedantry.

Beanie ,

That’s half-right. Upper-case letters aren’t pluralised with apostrophes but lower-case letters are. (So the plural of ‘R’ is ‘Rs’ but the plural of ‘r’ is ‘r’s’.) With numbers (written as ‘123’) it’s optional - IIRC, it’s more popular in Britain to pluralise with apostrophes and more popular in America to pluralise without. (And of course numbers written as words are never pluralised with apostrophes.) Acronyms are indeed not pluralised with apostrophes if they’re written in all caps. I’m not sure what you mean by decades.

ryannathans ,

Why use for lowercase?

GetOffMyLan ,

Because English is stupid

SlopppyEngineer ,

It’s not stupid. It’s just the bastard child of Germany, Dutch, French, Celtic and Scandinavian and tries to pretend this mix of influences is cool and normal.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Victim blaming and ableism!

The French and Scandinavian bits were NOT consensual.

(Don’t forget Latin btw)

bisby ,

Because otherwise if you have too many small letters in a row it stops looking like a plural and more like a misspelled word. Because capitalization differences you can make more sense of As but not so much as.

Mouselemming ,

By decades they meant “the 1970s” or “the 60s”

I don’t know if we can rely on British popularity, given y’all’s prevalence of the “greengrocer’s apostrophe.”

ProfessorProteus ,
@ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world avatar

Never heard of the greengrocer’s apostrophe so I looked it up. thoughtco.com/what-is-a-greengrocers-apostrophe-1…

I absolutely love that there’s a group called the Apostrophe Protection Society. Is there something like that for the Oxford Comma? I’d gladly join them!

SkyezOpen ,

I will die on both of those hills alongside you.

Aatube ,

In fact, there’s a hit song called “Oxford Comma”!

Bunnylux ,
@Bunnylux@lemmy.world avatar

Oooh, pedant stick, pedant stick! Give it to me!!

Toneswirly ,

Ladies and gentlemen: The Future.

Rhaedas ,

I tried it with my abliterated local model, thinking that maybe its alteration would help, and it gave the same answer. I asked if it was sure and it then corrected itself (maybe reexamining the word in a different way?) I then asked how many Rs in "strawberries" thinking it would either see a new word and give the same incorrect answer, or since it was still in context focus it would say something about it also being 3 Rs. Nope. It said 4 Rs! I then said "really?", and it corrected itself once again.

LLMs are very useful as long as know how to maximize their power, and you don't assume whatever they spit out is absolutely right. I've had great luck using mine to help with programming (basically as a Google but formatting things far better than if I looked up stuff), but I've found some of the simplest errors in the middle of a lot of helpful things. It's at an assistant level, and you need to remember that assistant helps you, they don't do the work for you.

sun_is_ra ,

First mentioned by linus techtip.

i had fun arguing with chatgpt about this

kubica ,

5% of the times it works every time.

some_guy ,

You can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 45% of all people know that.

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