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const_void , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

What does “built for Windows 10” even mean? It’s just a browser. It’s even cross platform.

Synthead ,

“Designed for Windows Me Millennium Edition”

Anticorp ,

Almost everything that runs on Windows was built for Windows. So it’s a true statement, but pointless. That’s like BF Goodrich advertising their tires as “built for cars”.

Hupf ,
Anticorp ,

😂

AVincentInSpace ,
Zyansheep ,

Maybe they meant it integrates well with other windows 10 apps?

const_void ,

Integrates how?

itwasawednesday ,
@itwasawednesday@lemmy.world avatar

You’re right, clicked it away so many times over the years and never stopped to think what a silly statement that was. I feel like it was for a time when 10 was a new shiny ‘mysterious’ thing, that it might convince people into thinking it needed something special, but has just aged like milk.

jaybone ,

NO WONDER I CANT GET IT TO RUN ON SOLARIS!!

ILikeBoobies ,

It’s integrated into the OS

const_void ,

In what way is it “integrated”? Please, I’d love to know.

DosDude ,
@DosDude@retrolemmy.com avatar

Microsoft Edge is integrated with File Explorer in Windows 10 through a feature called “Pick up where you left off”. This feature allows users to resume their browsing session from Microsoft Edge directly within File Explorer.

ILikeBoobies ,

Their other apps use it or part of it in the background.

Kind of like old Windows apps always used Explorer when they needed a browser

I wouldn’t be surprised if the start menu was using Edge for their search/ads

kamenLady ,

You’re telling me, that Windows now shows ads in the start menu?

Sorry, it’s probably a stupid question, but i haven’t used windows since XP.

ILikeBoobies ,

Most are in your system notifications but you’ll have “suggested apps” in the start menu for easy one-click installs

When you try to log out you’ll see ads for OneDrive and Office 365 apparently

There’s this

…microsoft.com/…/acee8751-31e3-4abd-8caa-28ae7ba4…

kamenLady ,

Wow - that’s really something.

It could almost be compared to Google’s feed, included in the pixel launcher…

For some time now, every 5th or 6th card is an ad … And over time they slowly look just like the normal news cards.

Yeah, nowadays we’re getting ads forced upon us - one way or the other ads have to be seen, preferably clicked on, by us.

MJBrune ,

That’s not really ads though.

PixxlMan ,

That unlike teams, which they didn’t bother to build for windows and instead used a webapp, they actually bothered to use their own ui tools on their own operating system for a change? (But I guess they only did that so that teams could be a webapp, based on edge…)

TheSambassador , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Edge started itself on boot after a recent Windows update. It even had a little pop-up about how “helpful” it was to have it start right when my computer turns on so I can “get to browsing” faster. It’s never been set as my default. Uhg.

zaph ,

Make sure you go into the settings and turn everything off. It’ll run in the background and do God knows what even though you’ve turned off startup.

Anticorp ,

And then on next update go turn it off again, since they’ll enable everything again. Rinse and repeat for eternity. Or switch to Linux and be done with their shenanigans.

normonator ,

If you sped through edge’s first launch wizard recently it’s now scraping your browsing data from other browsers.

zaph ,

Yeah I think they learned that from wavebrowser

CumBroth ,
@CumBroth@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil

Run this after every update, specifically the tweak that uninstalls Edge. Makes things a lot easier. It also gives you the option to delay feature updates by two years and only install security updates on time.

TheGiantKorean , in Microsoft Edge could use a win
@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world avatar

People might have used it if MS didn’t try cramming it down peoples’ throats, and if they didn’t add so much bling.

glibg10b ,

And Bing

SnipingNinja ,

I gave it a try because I kept reading how it’s so good on tech subs on reddit, turns out it’s worse than Chrome… and it only got worse (with the Bing AI stuff, which was supposed to be even better)

I now think those redditors might have been astroturfers.

TheGiantKorean ,
@TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been using SwiftKey, but they had to go and add a Bing button to it… I never use it, but just having it there feels gross.

1984 , in Microsoft Edge could use a win
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Microsoft tried to make a browser that had an edge, and they just decided fuck it and gave it the name Edge.

cm0002 , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Fuck no, I’m not particularly a fan of how it forces itself on you like Brock Turner (the rapist).

It can go and join IE in whatever pit of hell we threw IE in

If you wanna say that Chrome is trash and people should use Firefox, Opera, Safari or whatever else is currently trending among privacy focused people that I can agree with (Even if I personally won’t make the switch)

But Edge is NOT the answer, Edge is NEVER the answer. At this point I’m starting to wonder if all these Edge people in here are being paid by MS

ElBarto ,
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

There are some things from reddit I hope never come over here, but shitting on the rapist Brock Turner is always welcome in my books.

SnipingNinja ,

Welcome to the boat, I tried edge from all the people recommending it on reddit and I hate it

And the rapist analogy is not enough for how bad it is, it’ll copy everything from your default browser without your permission (or I somehow missed it)

Like I was caught by surprise when all my bookmarks, passwords, etc were just straight up copied by that privacy intruding piece of crap.

Fuck edge

WoodenBleachers ,
@WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

Definitely missed it. It doesn’t grab everything without permission, but probably wants to stay out of the way so you do pull it all in

Nobsi ,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

Edge is probably my favourite chromium browser. Seems like you care too much.

PotjiePig , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

I was getting a bit annoyed at Firefox and after recently formatting my PC, I decided to freshen things up. So after the mandatory new PC Edge Google, I must say I’m really enjoying the new UI of Opera.

Now I use Opera as my main driver, Firefox for the things that Opera struggles with, and Edge is there too.

SomeBoyo ,

Opera is spyware

JoeHill , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

I switched from Chrome to Edge and initially was really impressed. But then Microsoft had to go and Bing it all up. So now it’s back to Firefox after a 15 year hiatus.

netchami ,

You want something even better? Check out LibreWolf. It’s Firefox with all the privacy features preconfigured, uBlock Origin preinstalled and all the crap like Pocket and sponsored websites removed. And of course it uses DuckDuckGo instead of Google by default.

WoodenBleachers ,
@WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

That duckduckgo default is the thing that aggravates me the most. Sometimes those results just don’t cut it but I don’t even have the option to chance my default browser. I had to bookmark google

netchami ,

Use Startpage or an instance of Whoogle. They are both meta search engines for Google, they allow you to search on Google without exposing your data to Google. If you are a user of Mullvad VPN, you can also use Leta, their own Google meta search engine.

Granixo , in Microsoft Edge could use a win
@Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

I do use Edge as my main browser, for now.

MaggiWuerze ,

But why?

Granixo ,
@Granixo@feddit.cl avatar

Because my university is very Microsoft-centric when it comes to software and infrastructure. So using Edge allows me to keep myself logged in and not having to introduce my credentials every time i need to do something.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

Maybe they haven't installed Firefox yet

PixxlMan ,

You need something to download Firefox from right?

adespoton , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Well, I switched to Edge for work with the latest Chrome update (since internal apps were Chromium only), and was pleasantly surprised. It actually let me turn off almost all the junk, and is responsive in a way I haven’t seen in a Chromium browser in years.

Safari and Firefox for personal use though, and nothing compelling to make me change that.

Pyro ,

The performance is pretty on-par with other major browsers now, but it is the obscene amount of popups built into the browser that irritates me.

WoodenBleachers ,
@WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

I use edge for work every day, what popups?

_MusicJunkie ,

Once you set it up it’s fine, but on first opening you have to click through a bunch of menus (no, I don’t want to share data, no I don’t want to sync my account, and so on). In other browsers it’s a small popup in the corner which you can ignore, and just google what you wanted to google. In edge they’re fullscreen and you have to click no on each one.

Probably a rather unique problem because I regularly set up new machines, most people just go through it once and never see it again.

stewie410 ,

May be worth building a default config to “install” for those setups; that’s saved me quite some time when configuring new/spare machines at work.

Pyro ,

You hit the nail right on its head! It’s pretty bad that there is no skip all option, and for some of them you have to manually uncheck before continuing.

I’m in the same situation as you where I often work on fresh virtual machines, and so I see this a lot too.

grff ,

Same I’m a developer who uses edge as my daily driver and once setup right I love it

WoodenBleachers ,
@WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com avatar

I use arc on my mac and it’s nowhere near as nice as that, but I like the side tabs, the way it gets out of the way when I’m searching, and bing isn’t too bad; I’ve actually used it a few times. Once I found a customizable start page I haven’t looked back. Again, for work

nogooduser ,

There’s the shopping popup that tries to find better deals or vouchers for products you’re looking at. It’s easy to turn off though.

Searching the settings for “notification” does show others - a feature called Discover and sidebar apps seem to be able to send notifications but I’ve never seen either.

netchami ,

If you need to use Chromium, just use Ungoogled-Chromium or Brave. But Firefox/LibreWolf will always be superior.

odium ,

Same, I’m only allowed to use either Chrome or Edge on my work laptop, so I chose Edge.

Librewolf on my personal laptop and Firefox on mobile tho.

TheFriendlyArtificer ,

Bonus for Librewolf!

I love Firefox… But the listicle ads are seriously tacky and annoying. I do not want Pocket. And I do not want Pocket randomly re-enabled after a set of updates.

MaggiWuerze , (edited )

Maybe look at BromiteCromite? Open Source Chromium browser where you don’t need to disable anything

neme ,

Bromite has not been updated since January.

One of the old Bromite contributors forked it: github.com/uazo/cromite

MaggiWuerze ,

Yes, that one. Thanks for pointing it out

XpeeN ,

Mulch to

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

its based off of chromium, so one would expect it to be as fast as most modern browsers.

its the annoyances built on top of them, and user privacy that matters in a browser nowadays

krey , in Schrödinger's date format

It looks like it has a calendar button. I hope using it enters the date in a valid format

Sigmatics , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Use an ad-filled browser controlled by a megacorp, with an engine built by another megacorp?

Hmmm, I dunno

WhatAmLemmy ,

Even better. After you’ve explicitly triggered the default change MS is like “have you tried the all new megacorp spyware? It’s not actually new, but identical to the spyware we already installed and absolutely nothing has changed in the last 10 seconds since you made the decision, but we figured we’d throw another churn barrier at you because fuck you; we own your OS. You’re our product now bitch, and that’s all you’ll ever be”

Sigmatics ,

Sad but true

MaggiWuerze ,

Don’t forget the OS built by a megacorp snorkeling up all your data anyways

Sigmatics ,

At least I can mostly opt out there. Or use Linux

const_void ,

Sure if you trust that the opt-out switches actually work.

Anticorp ,

They must do something, or Windows wouldn’t constantly turn them back on with every other update.

jaybone ,

Maybe that’s just what they want you to think.

Shinhoshi ,

For all we know, Windows forgot to actually implement the settings /s

MonkderZweite ,

and don’t get reset the next update.

Honytawk ,

Do you think Microsoft wants to get sued by the EU?

Those opt-out work. Or at least in the EU they do.

SkyeStarfall ,

…that they ask you to actually pay for the privilege. Because remember, windows isn’t actually free (and you pay for it if you buy a pre-built).

AVincentInSpace ,

I feel it’s important to point out that you can simply not activate Windows and use it indefinitely

Does make you wonder though where Microsoft is getting that money from

WhiteHotaru ,

Corporate Users. My guess is, that almost any office job where you work on a Computer has Windows as OS. You have a license for your job. The license for home usage is bonus money to Microsoft.

stebo02 ,
@stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

aren’t they the same megacorp

LPThinker ,

I think they’re referring to the fact that Edge runs on the Chromium engine which, as the name implies, is a Google product.

MonkderZweite ,

Well, on the other hand, said megacorp finances the only other engine (Gecko, Blink being a fork of Apples Webkit), so they don’t have to bother with monopoly restrictions.

Current web is broken.

Sigmatics , (edited )

I realize this, but technically Mozilla is still an independent entity. They also fight some Google attempts at Web DRM, so it’s still healthy competition

lemmesay ,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

and web standards! chrome doesn’t care much about web standards. they regularly add new nonstandard proprieties that eventually wins because of their market-size.

Sigmatics ,

who needs a standard when you are the standard /s

lemmesay ,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I hope to see servo on my device next to Firefox some day.

railsdev ,

Nice 😎

junezephier , in Microsoft Edge could use a win

Sorry Gil, it’s still chromium ;c

amanaftermidnight , in Schrödinger's date format

This is why I don’t get why the 9th of November is such a big deal.

dukk ,

Are you kidding? They opened the Berlin Wall!

Speiser0 ,
jmcs , in Schrödinger's date format

That’s a trick, it’s actually ISO 8601.

lambalicious ,
boyi , in D or d come on

Don’t even have to cd when using completion with fish/zsh. Just type


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