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Rhynoplaz ,

Hell no. EVERYBODY needs to earn it. I don’t care how fucking privileged or old you are.

NeoNachtwaechter ,

You respect every human being for being. But then you may choose to disrespect somebody for doing something.

FuglyDuck ,
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I feel like this diluted the meaning of the word.

Yes. You should treat every one with dignity and decency and politeness and all that, but in the context of teachers getting respect from students because they’re teachers…. It’s a different thing.

In the former, it’s basic decency. The latter is something more- obedience and acceptance. For teachers they should be respectable. Many aren’t. But they should be worthy of the respect… and kids should give it. When teachers prove unworthy…

Same with cops. Cops should be worthy of respect. And you should give it. But the reality is ACAB and I ain’t giving that respect.

Rhynoplaz ,

It all boils down to: Whoever gets to make the rules will make sure that those rules benefit themselves, once someone new gets to make the rules, they will only change the rules if it’s no longer beneficial to the ruler.

Old people said respect your elders, young people hated it but got old and decided they wanted THEIR turn. Lather, rinse, repeat.

FuglyDuck ,
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Eh. there are teachers who deserve respect. a great deal of respect. I have three or four that stand to mind. The kind of teachers that move mountains to help their students.

IMO respect must be earned. you don’t get it just because you elected to follow a career. which brings us back- teachers should have earned and continue earning that respect… and students should give it. its not rocket science. Well, actually, [Only Good Math Teacher I had] was teaching rocket science. because it got us interested. But, usually it’s not. details.

Rhynoplaz ,

Oh there are tons of teachers who deserve respect, but it’s because of their actions NOT their title.

Anamana , (edited )

Generally, no. I wouldn’t give respect to anyone who mistreats me and would probably report it (if student) to a higher authority through my parents. But because this issue differs across cultures, it’s not that easy to defend yourself against it sometimes. In Japan or India hierarchy between different generations is seen as something more important than in Europe for example, so they might put blame rather on pupils than teachers no matter what. In Europe, teachers would be fired immediately if they behaved as you describe. So it really depends on your circumstances and if your parents support you in your cause.

I would try to find a compromise between what your culture expects of you and your personal moral compass. Otherwise people might not side with you and you will just have a tough life. So be clever in how you approach it. Also if other students feel similar it might be a good idea if you all tell your parents to connect each other to do sth against it. If hierarchy is an issue they have more power to do sth against it.

Albin7326 OP ,
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In India, from my prespective students have zero value. They don’t take our reports seriously.

Anamana , (edited )

I’m not surprised you’re from there. In Germany people often talk about how pupils are still hit by teachers in India, often followed by a debate whether this is sth we can judge from a German perspective.

My grandpa was also hit by his teachers in the 50s and my parents seldomly. But I never experienced it in the 90s/00s. Abuse is rather psychological nowadays I would say. More subversive.

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