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How common is it for atheists to be against homosexuality/abortion?

I posted this question on Reddit a while ago and it was an interesting discussion so I wanted to hear what Lemmings think.

It’s common for religious people to be against the above mentioned things due to their beliefs, but how common is it for atheists to be against them? What reasons would they have? How would they base their opinion if there was no belief system/religion to rely on?

I’m not trying to provoke or insult anybody with this question, and I don’t wish for people to hate on each other’s beliefs. I just think this is an interesting concept to think about.

scarabic ,

What do you. Mean by “being against homosexuality?” This can mean:

Finding it distasteful.

Thinking it isn’t real or healthy.

Speaking out against it, trying to shame or stigmatize it.

Promoting its criminalization.

I don’t really care if people want to do 1 and 2 as long as they keep it in their heads.

Hyperreality ,

Not sure about the US, but a lot of former soviet countries are virulently homophobic, despite high levels of atheism.

China and Japan are also quite homophobic too, despite something like 80% of the population being atheist.

Closer to home, the UK has far more atheists (google suggests almost twice as many) than the US, but is also TERF central with plenty of homophobia and transphobia.

Gullible ,

Supposedly china, a country that’s largely atheist, also has issues with homosexuality. Weird how persistent that trait is.

FuglyDuck ,
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I suspect it’s far less common, but I don’t have any numbers.

It depends in large part how you define “atheist”- does this include people with religious or spiritual beliefs, but don’t believe in a diety?

Or does it exclude the supernatural altogether?

Regardless, personally… I don’t care. Like, yes, absolutely equal rights to love who you want. Absolutely should be codified into law. Don’t get me wrong… everyone should have that right… and equal access to healthcare, and the rights to decide what happens to and in one’s body.

But personally… I don’t care. I don’t care if you specifically are gay, or if you’ve had six abortions in the last year. It just doesn’t matter- and it really, really Shouldn’t matter at all.

That people are trying to make it matter… trying to discriminate and make it illegal? Yes. That matters. That’s wrong and evil. Their hatred is something that we need to stand against.

Fedegenerate ,

That was me, I was raised Mormon so I had a lot of common sense that turned out to be unquestioned prejudice. Not a defence of who I was though, I was a prick.

PorradaVFR ,

I would note that it’s not any part of the ethos so an atheist can be (or not) anything. A lack of faith in a deity and an absence of prescribed beliefs is precisely that after all.

So vegan and meat loving atheists can exist precisely as much as progressive and extremely conservative ones.

Is it likely or common? I’d venture so say I doubt it.

neptune ,

Are you talking about an atheist who thinks the government should stop gay people? Or an atheist who is personally homophobic or ambivalent?

I’m sure they exist to some point. To what degree do we mean atheist? Someone who self labels? Probably less so, as someone who self labels as an atheist is probably more in tune with prevailing ideas about church/state.

I’m sure things were different in the 80s and before versus now.

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