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bionicjoey ,

If you are sleeping so heavily that you sleep through your alarm every time, you probably aren’t getting enough sleep. Go to bed earlier.

subignition ,
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And if you are getting 7-9 hours and still having this issue, please ask your doctor about sleep apnea.

CobblerScholar ,

No sure shot but it does sound like it’s not the alarm that’s the problem. You’ve trained yourself to be able to ignore your alarm, that it doesn’t mean “get-out-of-bed” time to your unconscious brain. Change the alarm tone on your phone and have a few practice sessions. Set your new alarms after a short nap and as soon as those alarms go off throw off all the covers and stand up fully as soon as you can. The idea is to retrain your brain to get up all the way at the sound of that alarm.

Another thing that’s really helped me personally is installing a smart light bulb that turns itself on just before my sound alarms start going off. That way I’m not trying to force myself awake in a dark noisy room.

krcr ,

I use an old standalone alarm clock, that I put on the other side of the room. So I have to get up to turn it off.

SzethFriendOfNimi ,
@SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world avatar

And if it’s not loud enough put it in a small metal pan or bowl, and place that inside a partially opened dresser drawer. Amplifies it quite a bit in addition to your suggestion to physically get up to turn it off.

anon6789 ,
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This. I have an old vintage alarm clock that I put across the room. It’s set to my “if you aren’t up by now you will be late no matter what” time. If my phone alarms don’t get me up, this thing is so loud and unpleasant I will certainly get up.

Phone ringers are too pleasant sound and easy to snooze. I need to change the tone every few months as I adapt to them all. A harsh metal bell or mechanical buzz on an alarm with no snooze that I cant reach from bed has me wake up at the last phone ringer because it is so ear shattering when that alarm clock goes off, I can snap through all but the worst sleep deficit nights.

It also pisses off the girlfriend when that annoying thing goes off too, so then I have her mad at me for waking her up if I’m not up to shut it off before it lets loose.

Flocklesscrow ,

Put your phone/alarm somewhere that makes you get up to turn it off. Then you’re already out of bed.

Skull ,

Turn the volume up on your alarms, and pick an annoying ring tone helps a lot. As well setting the phone away from the bed if you’re able to.

palordrolap ,

There are devices that literally shake the bed to wake up a sleeper. Most often used by deaf or hard-of-hearing people for whom audio alarms are non-starters, but it could work for you if you're actually sleeping through and not snoozing. There are a few that work on smells as well.

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

They also have strobe light alarm clocks for the same reason. Get both and turn your wake up routine into a rave.

Lazycog ,
@Lazycog@sopuli.xyz avatar

Does this occur even after a few nights of proper sleep?

If you generally sleep enough and don’t have other sleeping problems you could try to change the ringtone. Or if you are like me and turn off the alarm half a sleep and don’t remember it, put your alarms further away from your bed.

agamemnonymous ,
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I use a smart alarm app. It uses your mic to track your breathing, and uses that information to identify when you’re in deeper and lighter phases of sleep. You set a range of time for the alarm, and when it detects you coming out of a deep cycle it starts the alarm. I’ve always slept through alarms, and this works like a dream.

ThrowawayPermanente ,

I use an app called AMDroid, it makes me do math in my head before I can shut it off. Works every time.

catharso ,

I too use AMDroid math questions but for snoozing.

Too disable the alarm i have to get up, walk to the bathroom and scan a QR-Code next to the mirror.

Chozo ,

Go to bed earlier. If you're frequently sleeping through your alarms or falling asleep immediately after turning them off, then you're not getting enough sleep. Any tips and tricks like "two alarms 5 minutes apart" or "drink water before bed so you have to pee when you wake up" will only get you so far where sleep deprivation is concerned.

southsamurai ,
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Well, it mostly depends on why you’re missing them.

Believe it or not, sometimes there’s nothing you can do. Some people will sleep through any noises at all, though it’s really unusual.

Most likely, your brain is telling you that you aren’t sleeping enough by refusing to react to the stimulus.

So you gotta fix what’s wrong. If you’re staying up late, begin rest earlier, even if you don’t sleep earlier (which can be the case for some types of insomnia). Just being in dark/low light with as little external stimulus as possible can help your brain and body “recharge” a little even when you don’t sleep enough. That’s a short term fix, you’ll eventually need to figure out what to do to address the insomnia directly.

If you’re not staying asleep it’s harder to address without outside help. Tbh, it isn’t usually something that you can crowd source an answer for just because there’s too many possibilities. A sleep study tends to end up being the real answer. But you can try various meditative methods when you wake up to help drop back out faster, if you’re waking up enough to do so.

The major problem comes in when you can’t tell you’re waking up, or are just sleeping so poorly that it amounts to the same thing. Apnea is a bitch like that, so you’d want to rule it out one way or another.

All of that being said, you can also try vibration based alarms, like the kind that go under the mattress or pillow. There’s also wrist and headband based ones. Sometimes, especially if your brain is just inviting the alarms because it’s pissy about ignoring sounds, tactile stimulation gets the job done because our brains process it differently, and it’s harder to filter out past a point.

I would try getting more and better sleep as the primary fix though. Get to bed earlier, make sure you minimize light and noise, and learn some techniques like progressive relaxation and deep, controlled breathing. If you need background sound, err on the side of “white noise” over music, but music will do in a pinch as long as it’s on a timer so it doesn’t interfere with the sound of the alarm later.

Make sure you aren’t snoring heavy, and if you are, address that. The problem is that it often takes a ton of experimentation to figure out what actually helps you. Snoring isn’t the same as apnea, necessarily, but it does disturb your sleep sometimes.

Avoid stimulants at least 4 hours before bed. No caffeine, no tobacco, no meth (the last is mostly a joke, but check that any prescription meds or OTC meds aren’t stimulants).

And, obviously, if you can, talk to your doctor about a sleep study.

andrewta ,

Thank you for a well thought out response to the op

thezeesystem ,

I personally use sleep as android for my wake up alarm when I really need to get up. Has various options that help me. Like forcing me to get out of bed to scan a QR code to dismiss the alarm. Among other great things.

DashboTreeFrog ,

I second this, been using it for years.

The smart alarm feature that senses when you’re already moving around a bit is great too, especially when used with a smart watch/fitness band of some kind

thezeesystem ,

Don’t forget one the best parts. Sleep noises for when you need to sleep but your brain won’t stop firing.

dan1101 ,

This is my app too, Sleep As Android. I have it set to softly play a cuckoo sound, it gradually gets louder if you don’t respond and starts vibrating at some point. But yeah it also has various options for those who need to outsmart their sleepy selves.

ArmoredThirteen ,

Be super anxious that your spouse is going to start belittling you for not getting anything done so that the moment movement anywhere in the house happens you bolt awake and start cleaning something, get a divorce, move to a new house so all the noises are different and everything sets off the “oh fuck I need to wake up and clean” response, then carry that anxiety over to assuming your super caring new roommate is going to secretly hate you unless you’re always awake and cleaning something. Worked for me anyway I can wake up hours earlier than I used to I don’t even need an alarm

TheRealKuni ,

There is an app called Sleep As Android that I used to use. You put your phone on your bed next to you and it tries to determine what level of sleep you’re in. You tell it when you’d like to get up and if it detects that you’re in a lighter stage of sleep within a certain amount of time before that, it triggers the alarm. You’re then more likely to hear it, and more likely to feel rested, than if it went off like, twenty minutes later.

Also played nice with WearOS watches.

wyrmroot ,

I’m really sensitive to light when I sleep. I’ve got blackout curtains, no annoying little lights on any devices, the usual. One of the advantages is that by having a smart light bulb set to gradually turn on alongside my alarm, it really wakes me the hell up. Maybe try incorporating a light to yours?

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