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dch82 ,

I 100% agree; the thing is they measure this stuff by the mean so a few outliers (rich districts or billionaires) make things look reasonable by number.

WhatsHerBucket OP ,
@WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world avatar

So it has to do with the wealth of a country?

PythagreousTitties ,

You have fifty people in here telling you exactly why. How are you still confused?

Vendetta9076 ,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

BecUsw they don’t want an answer unless it correlates with their belief.

PythagreousTitties ,

Bingo. Notice how they haven’t responded to any comments since.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Because of their modern and huge airforce and army, along with all the big tech companies, and Hollywood.

The PR image of America is quite nice. The reality, not that great.

NeptuneOrbit ,

The Gucci belt

lud ,

I don’t like the government system, I don’t like the police, I don’t like anything to do with this country’s government. I just don’t like it, because… they’re sneaky, like I said - they’re deceitful, they’re lying, they’re cheats, they rip the people off. That’s the American government for you. America is a third world country, and people don’t recognise it… and I think that that’s pretty god damn sad, that they don’t recognise their own country as a third world, third rate, third class slum

xmunk ,

Because the majority of old people are rich and there are still the echoes of a real middle class. Let’s see if Trump gets elected and everyone with the cash to do so flees his outrageous proposed tariffs.

capital_sniff ,

digitallibrary.un.org/record/1629536?v=pdfUN report from 2018 so pre-pandemic.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

TIL: Way too many people think it’s still the Cold War. Language changes people.

ozymandias117 ,

Yup, it does change. It was attempted to mean “poor” and it’s been reappropriated since

If you’re trying to use modern language, it’s “developed” and “developing”

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

You mean global north/ global south.

Developing and developed are considered negatively.

But in terms of laypeople words, that are used every day, 1st and 3rd world mean the same thing.

ozymandias117 ,

North/south imply certain regions can’t improve and is far worse than developed/developing

If layperson words didn’t have an issue with 1st/3rd world, you wouldn’t see so many comments about it

otp ,

Language changes people.

In what ways are people changed by language?

PythagreousTitties ,

Did you figure it out yet?

gravitas_deficiency ,

Because the original concept of “ordinal world country” came out of the Cold War:

  • “first world” was US/Western affiliated/allied
  • “second world” was USSR affiliated/allied
  • ”third world” just meant “none of the above” for a very long time

However, since then, understanding of the term in popular discourse has somewhat shifted from geopolitical affiliation to a vague amalgam of socioeconomic status/GDP/“are you a pariah state”/etc.

On a less serious note: the US is really just several dozen 3rd world countries in a trenchcoat essentially relying on (but also politically backstabbing) the economic product of like 5 or 6 states that could be first world economies in their own right

disposable ,

Personally, terms like ‘first world’ and ‘third world’ are pointless to me.

No country is without flaws, I’d say, because most countries are inhabited by people.

h3mlocke ,

Cause derp a derp a dee.

kent_eh ,

Add political violence to your list.

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