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satans_crackpipe ,

AP is really nosediving. Malware ads and no cursory explanation of purchasing medical debt.

Akasazh ,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

How do the economics work if one dollar can erase one hundred dollars of debt? Somehow profit is still made?

GiddyGap OP ,

You can buy medical debt at a fraction of the face value. That’s how these predatory debt collection companies make money.

Akasazh ,
@Akasazh@feddit.nl avatar

What’s stopping people buying of their own debt? And why is money still being made?

dependencyinjection ,

You buy it in bundles. John Oliver did a segment if you want more information on the practice.

1847953620 ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/33e23291-e240-40d2-a5ca-30bda8d58d86.jpeg

not bad for a week after dying from cancer

GiddyGap OP ,

Separate sentences, though.

1847953620 ,

/c/whoosh

Neon ,

/c/no-stop-it

tuxtey ,

Honestly I’m glad you pointed that out, because my mind would not process that separately.

PhotoBobomb ,

Constantly feels like we’re losing the best of us. I can’t imagine facing death and thinking, “How can I make a bunch of other people’s lives easier?”

Zoboomafoo ,
@Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world avatar

Oh gee, why didn’t I think about voting for change?

It’s so obvious now that you put it that way

SoylentBlake ,

While this is for sure life changing for those it helps, and magnanimous of this heroine, it is still chock full of shame that the motherfuckers who’ve twisted the system all up STILL get their win, no matter what.

I hope BRICS absolutely destroys the dollar, and when that falls, and the military and police no longer are getting paid, everything else’ll fall too. Then the rich can be just as broke as everyone else, but they’ll have food, supplies, jewelry so the armed will be making it out to mansion manor with the quickness. Like the next day.

And no, the police won’t work to restore order. Work for free? Have you met these people before? Look at the last 20 years, those motherfuckers will be LEADING the looting.

Don’t think they’ll be any kind of ally tho, they’ll be burning thru ammo taking out any one who even looks at them, you included. They’re only about themselves, as evidenced, by everywhere.

larsloveslegos ,
@larsloveslegos@lemmy.world avatar

Voting won’t solve anything now that we’re one election away from authoritarianism. It’s the difference between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

GreenMario ,

Another “orphan crushing machine”. Add it to the pile.

Mammal ,
@Mammal@lemmy.world avatar

Democrats are just as committed to this for-profit driven healthcare system as Republicans are. They’re just a little bit more polite about it.

SeaJ ,

Not really. There is at least a decent portion of Democrats in office that would love to at the very least offer a public option for health insurance. Unfortunately there are more than enough Democrats in office against the idea combined with all of the Republicans to block any sort of attempt at that or Medicare for All.

Mammal ,
@Mammal@lemmy.world avatar

There were more than enough Democrats in Congress in 2008 to make that happen.

There are more than enough Democrats now to make it enough of an issue that it becomes part of the public conversation.

There are more than enough Democrats now that could make an internal party rule that prohibits Democrats from ever lobbying for pharmaceutical or insurance companies.

However, the Democratic Party is far more motivated to kneecap actual healthcare reforms than actually implement what they say they believe in.

cosmicrookie ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

The US is the only developed country where this is commonplace.

US is not a developed country. It is overdeveloped

Pratai ,

Is an over-lit room an unlit room?

Is an overloaded truck unloaded?

cosmicrookie ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

What’s your point?

Mine is, that capitalism has gone too far in the US. Yours sounds more like a meaningless and irrelevant wordplay.

Pratai ,

My point is that what you said is complete nonsense.

cosmicrookie ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Ok

Bonehead ,

An over-lit room can be uncomfortable, even impossible, to work in.

An overloaded truck is at best unable to move, and at worst a serious danger to everything around it.

Pratai ,

Neither reverses the effect.

An over-lit room is still a LIT room.

An OVER-loaded truck is still a loaded truck.

Bonehead ,

But both are equally useless as having an unlit room or an unloaded truck.

cosmicrookie ,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Dude… you’re fighting to have people accept something they already accept. Get over it. Yes USA is a developed country, but not just that in it self. On top of that it is overdeveloped rendering the development useless to everyday people like you and me.

Pratai ,

I’m not fighting anything, I’m simply pointing out that it was a dumb thing to say.

guacupado ,

That’s not what was asked.

Bonehead ,

You can't work in an over-lit room because you can't see.

You can't use an overloaded truck because it can't move safely.

You can't live in an over-developed country because too many politicians are in the pockets of lobbyists who have pushed so much bullshit that's resulted in a massive ungainly tax code filled with loopholes for the rich and built to fuck over the poor.

It's exactly what was asked.

JimboDHimbo ,

I’m sorry, but we as a country can’t vote our way out of a paper bag. We’re too caught up in division politics and general propaganda to make any leeway

KoboldCoterie ,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

America, if you’d vote for change, this wouldn’t be necessary. The US is the only developed country where this is commonplace.

In order for us to vote for change, change has to be on the ballot.

morgan_423 ,
@morgan_423@lemmy.world avatar

In order for us to vote for change, change has to be on the ballot.

Moreover, the ballot itself must change.

Seraph ,
@Seraph@kbin.social avatar

Can't echo this enough. Find your local RCV group and volunteer

GiddyGap OP ,

Yeah, but still. To me, one party wants as much of this to change as possible. The other one wants to take us as far back toward the 1950s as possible.

ShunkW ,

You’re not wrong that the Republicans wanna go back to the 1850s nowadays. But Democrats campaign on Medicare for all and single payer with no intent to ever implement it. It’s a popular idea, but would hurt their bottom line if they ever actually did anything about it.

And our system is rigged against anyone not running as either party, so…

PhlubbaDubba ,

My guy 4 years took us from MC4A being fringe to every primary candidate having their own pitch for it from just doing medicare but without the age floor to complete abolition of private medicine.

The reason it hasn’t happened yet is because the demographic that’s most vocal for it is also the one that has to be dragged to the polls kicking and screaming to actually flipping vote for it.

ShunkW ,

I don’t believe a single mainstream Democrat would ever stop taking donations in order to actually implement it. I’ll still vote for the lesser of two evils until something changes with our bullshit system. Doesn’t mean I have to be happy about it

guacupado ,

Obama literally passed the best we’ve gotten in a while, and that was with Republicans blocking every possible detail they could. Stop trying to imply both sides are the same.

skuzz ,

One party wants to take us back to the 1950s, the other party pretends to want change. Both parties want the status quo. They’re the ruling class and they want we peons to stay in our place and produce wealth for them. There’s not a Left and a Right anymore, there’s center-right and deep-right.

Time and again, Democrats claim to want to help, but even when they are a majority, they always find a way to blame Republicans for their bills not getting passed. This is by design. They keep receiving votes because, “obviously, we’re trying!” when in reality they don’t want to risk their wealth any more than anyone else in the ruling class. They all live in a bubble outside of reality where they don’t even have to think about or concern themselves with “tiny” problems like medical debt thanks to perks like their government health plan and voting for their own pay raises.

Every once in a blue, they dangle a carrot like the affordable care act, net neutrality, or the attempts to delete student loan debt, so they can keep voters coming back and voting D, but it’s all just a contrived farce.

Unfortunately, now it’s either voting for fascism or voting for the status quo, so for the preservation of the country, more will vote D, and the Democratic party will assume it is because We The People like their weak attempts at policy.

Pratai ,

Holy shit that’s profound! Well responded!

guylacaptivite ,
@guylacaptivite@sh.itjust.works avatar

Incomprehensibly depressing. Everything about this should make us ashamed of ourselves as a species. Or we should just stop pretending that we value each other more than cash. Or at all actually.

PP_BOY_ , (edited )
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Everything about this should make us ashamed of ourselves as a species country

Don’t rope the rest of humanity into this. Most of the rest of us have got it figured out.

guylacaptivite ,
@guylacaptivite@sh.itjust.works avatar

Then why do the most of us let something like this happen. And while some countries have better healthcare there is still an enormous amount of suffering everywhere be it starvation, war, homelessness you name it. We have the means to be better but we don’t do it.

caboclo ,
@caboclo@lemmy.eco.br avatar

still almost all cause by that same country we all know very well.

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