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downpunxx ,
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But but everyone says it's not antisemitism

dumdum666 ,

This wouldn’t happen without Putins explicit consent so this will deteriorate relations between Ruzzia and Israel further.

Hyperreality , (edited )

They've previously had protests over disproportionate conscription of Muslims for the meat grinder in Ukraine:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/26/europe/russia-dagestan-protests-mobilization-intl-hnk/index.html

This is a useful distraction. Goes to show how much of a shit Hamas actually gives about Muslim lives, given they recently praised Putin for his tireless efforts.

Pistcow ,

They de-nazifying the Jewish now?

SeaJ ,

They already were by wanting to remove Zalenskiyy who is Jewish.

Rapidcreek ,

The lynch mob which stormed the airport in Dagestan, Russia to search for Jewish passengers then stopped a bus full of kids in front of the airport

They suspected that the children are Israeli and demand to check everyone’s passports.

Diabolo96 ,

They should’ve went the Israeli way of throwing a bomb at the plane /bus and then claiming it had terrorists in it. Much less international turmoil.

Rapidcreek ,

Many Social Justice Warriors need to embrace their inner anti-semitism rather than hide it behind concern for the dead. We would respect you more if you were just honest about it.

Diabolo96 ,

Yep 7 thousands deaths and 75 years of genocide are all fake. Sadly, you only care about the other side so I do the inverse.

Rapidcreek ,

And you proceed to prove my point.

Diabolo96 ,

Doing genocide and calling people against it anti-semite. Oh, well.

BaroqueInMind , (edited )
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Hamas wants to completely destroy all of Israel and all its people, piled in through the border fences like orcs and slaughtered helpless families in their own homes. Israel is fine only targeting and destroying Hamas who are armed fanatic insurgents that like to use Palestinians as meat shields, yet you imply only the Israelis are genocidal.

You are starting to sound like a terrorist-enabling piece of shit. Please prove me wrong.

Diabolo96 , (edited )

Hamas wants to completely destroy all of Israel and all its people, piled in through the border fences like orcs and slaughtered helpless families in their own homes

Retaliation to Isreal worse crimes. You know, like with Germany nazi officers after ww2.

Also let me fix it for you :

Isreal is destroying all of palestine and all its people, constantly bombarding houses, hospitals, schools. 7 thousands died in less than 2 weeks ,half of them are children, and countless more injured. Isreal cut electricity, water and food. They’ve been doing it for 75 years.

BaroqueInMind , (edited )
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Isreal is destroying all of palestine and all its people, constantly bombarding houses, hospitals, schools.

That's where Hamas likes to hide. They are using Palestinians as meat shields to trick dumbasses like yourself to fall for their side. If they were an actual military that abides by Geneva Conventions they would not stage their weapons and plan their operations like cowards in fucking elementary schools and hospitals full of helpless people.

Diabolo96 ,

trick dumbasses like yourself to fall for their side

I am calling a genocide and ethnic cleansing what they are. The fact that you’re blinded by hate, propaganda or both is non of my business.

Ah, yes. The meat shield theory. The 101 trick to bypass UN laws about targeting civilians. Very effective indeed.

It instantly makes it okay to target civilian houses, destroy schools and hospitals. Please continue massacring them then…right?

BaroqueInMind ,
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Israeli military legit warns people to leave in a thousand different ways. If you're stupid enough to hang out where a military is telling you to get the fuck out because it's targeting bad guys near you, it's on you if you die right next to some terrorists who would also not give two fucks if you, a Palestinian, died and say to your worthless corpse "Allah & Muhammad (PBUH) sent you to heaven".

Again, Hamas are terrorists. They don't care about Palestinians. They care even less about Jews.

BaroqueInMind ,
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/29/israel-war-hamas-blocks-foreign-nationals-from-leaving-gaza/

If you still support Hamas after this, you are legit on the side of terrorism, and if so, you should stop talking and think about your beliefs and how dumb they are.

Diabolo96 , (edited )

Please , read this piece of propaganda or you’re terrorist. I could show you the aftermath of any of Isreal thousand rockets and civilians and you still on Isreal side. Do you think a random article from the freaking country thar caused all this in the first place will change my mind ?. Again , Isreal committed and is commiting atrocities on palistinians. 7 thousands died in two weeks , half of them children. You are trying so hard to justify it by calling them terrorists. Wtf is wrong with people like you ?

BaroqueInMind ,
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My mistake, lets allow Hamas back in Israel and see what happens then. Yeah?

Diabolo96 ,

I mean , Isreal is commiting far worse than anything hamas ever did. You know how jews literally hunted nazi officers ? I expect the same.

BaroqueInMind ,
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What are your thoughts on Judaism? Just need to ask this probing question before I continue to chat with you here.

Diabolo96 , (edited )

Honestly, I’ve kept repeating the same things over and over with you guys. You bring up some bullshit Isreal propaganda about palestine and i repeat that they’re fucking commiting a massacre ad nauseam. it’s gonna be my last message until I find some other outrageous isreali propaganda that I can’t ignore and I ignore quite a lot of bullshit.

What are your thoughts on Judaism

It’s one religion out of the thousands on earth ? What the hell is this kind of question ? What’s the point ? I question your views on the main religion of the people that are commiting mass genocide because you think they shouldn’t commit mass genocide. Basically, “how dare you side with the non-jews you anti-semite” that I’ve seen Isreal trying to force internationally.

How about having some humanity and be against genocide regardless of the religion of either side ? I don’t expect your views to change tho. I am here to thwart attempts at demonizing Palestinian in the eye of the gullible masses.

BaroqueInMind , (edited )
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How about having some humanity and be against genocide regardless of the religion

You say this, and I have scrubbed your comment history and see nothing come from your denouncing Hamas, which is why i claim you are in support of terrorism. This is why I asked your views on Judaism. You claim to have an unbiased opinion and want peace, but so far I have not seen it from you at all.

So far, Israel has the only solution for an end-state to begin peace: destroy Hamas. You are implying the Israelies should NOT do that and simply ignore the thousands of families that got massacred a last week?

What can you do if your neighbor next door wants you gone and not just gone, they want you dead? You can't reason with them. What do you do?

I am here to thwart attempts at demonizing Palestinian in the eye of the gullible masses.

A valiant effort. Good luck with that. I genuinely hope you are successful. Palestinians are cool, Hamas can suck my tiny pp and deserve to die.

Diabolo96 , (edited )

You calll them terrorists, i call them freedom fighters. They’re Palestinian that witnessed again and again the atrocities of Isreal and are retaliating.Isreal literally take their homes and lands and build settlements and these are the least things they’ve been doing to them.

the biggest propaganda achievement a country that wants war is calling the other side freedom fighters terrorists so that the world come to their side when they commit atrocities. USA, succeeded with Vietnam and Israel succeeded with palestine.

Isreal have shown to not want to establish a two state solution, they want it all. They’re not poor innocent souls who can’t defend themselves they’re murderers, colonizers and criminals of war, all of them. Pretty much like the British that went to apartheid South Africa to enslave and colonize the natives.

BaroqueInMind ,
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What's stopping you from flying over to Palestine and helping them succeed? Do you want what the Taliban have in Afghanistan all over the Levant with Hamas? This is a serious question because it's on the table if Hamas has its way.

Diabolo96 , (edited )

It’s always Muslims = terrorists with you guys. Muslims freedom fighters were called terrorists by the colonizers/west since more than a century now. Destroy a country infrastructure and education system. Butcher it’s citizens like cattles and then ask why religious zealots control the distressed, always agonizing population in a world were their fights for freedom is considered illegal.

BaroqueInMind , (edited )
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Just for clarification, I am Muslim BTW. You are supporting terrorists, so I would say your bias is morally wrong

Diabolo96 , (edited )

Your religion is non of my or anyone business. Be it truth or a lie( and it’s an old propaganda trick, IE: “I am black and Obama did nothing for me” said a white racist who forgot to change his account), It’s a personal choice and It doesn’t change anything to my arguments.

But if you’re Muslim, you’re likely from a former colony or you’re parents were. Just look at it’s history and you’ll find countless newspapers from the colonizers calling any retaliation or guerilla work by the native as a terrorist attack. Freedom never came for free and the colonizers atrocities we’re always justified as a fight against terrorism or simply swept under the rug. Always know your people history because the abusers will always try to act as the victims. Plus,knowing about history allow you to see bullshit propaganda from miles away.

BaroqueInMind ,
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I agree with you, but you need to draw the line somewhere at the point where the freedom fighters are not targeting military personnel and simply killing innocent families in their homes, hunting down teens at a concert, as well as hiding in hospitals. That's not how freedom fighters fight, that's how terrorist pussies fight.

Hamas are fucking terrorists. Full stop. And I still can't understand why you are okay with them murdering helpless people instead of fighting bravely like actual freedom fighters (Mujahideen are a good example) . What the fuck is wrong with people?

Diabolo96 , (edited )

Last message : Were you fucking living under a rock ? It’s like you completely forgetting Isreal is doing far worse. This must be a joke right? the Israeli cowards use drones, bombs, high grade military to bomb and kill civilians every other year . Without forgetting the stealing of land and houses to built settlement , the daily and constant attacks that the settlers are committing toward the palistinians . Wtf ? The way you’re trying to force one side as the epitome of evil and completely obscure the other side horrible acts is enough to tell me everything. Especially the heavy use of isreali propaganda arguments.

hunting down teens at concert

Isreal Hunting down palistinians teens every day of their life, attacking them and beating them, destroying their freaking house to give to a colonizer and kills all their family with drone strike every other year. No, the other side are horrible.

BaroqueInMind ,
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the Israeli cowards use drones, bombs, high grade military to bomb and kill civilians every other year

Unless you provide me a specific news article for this, I'm going to assume they were targeting Hamas militants.

Without forgetting the stealing of land and houses to built settlement , the daily and constant attacks that the settlers are committing toward the palistinians

The land has been sold to Israeli settlers since Ottoman times in the 1800s when, Arabs who owned the lands, sold it to European Jews. No land is being "stolen" unless you can please provide a news article with proof.

Isreal Hunting down palistinians teens every day of their life, attacking them and beating them, destroying their freaking house to give to a colonizer and kills all their family with drone strike every other year

Again, please post a news article about this thing you claimed happened.

You seem to be heavily convinced by Hamas propaganda and your mind is likely incapable of critical thought so let me rephrase in caps

HAMAS ARE FUCKING TERRORISTS. You supporting them and echoing their propaganda in favor of them makes you seem like a violent idiot who enjoys to see suffering. Jews and Muslims live peacefully elsewhere, Hamas wants that to stop. Fuck you for enabling this kind of shit take.

Hyperreality ,

As many as 250,000 civilians died in the Chechen wars, Putin is currently disproportionately and forcibly conscripting Muslim minorities for the meatgrinder in Ukraine, and continues to support Assad despite him murdering hundreds of thousands. Hamas recently praised Putin for his efforts.

Perhaps you should do a bit more reading, and be a bit more critical of the media you consume and the simplistic narratives they feed you.

Diabolo96 , (edited )

Perhaps you should do a bit more reading, and be a bit more critical of the media you consume and the simplistic narratives they feed you.

Perhaps , if i you saw videos and images of atrocities that Isreal did and is commiting you’d maybe snap of the narrative Isreal is feeding you ? Do you really think putin forcefully conscripting Muslims will make me change my mind towards Isreal genocide ?

downpunxx ,
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Funny, for 70 years the Arabs have gotten morons like you screaming "genocide" whilst the "Palestinian" headcount has only risen a hundred fold in the same time. A miracle by anyone's estimation, wouldn't you say? No. You wouldn't baiting Jews is your thing, and we see you scumbags clearly. The kids have a problem making out exactly what you are, but it's fine, you always reveal yourselves.

Diabolo96 , (edited )

You’re not the first one to spit out the head count like they’re some kind of cattle to you. Sadly, This is what lack of history knowledge does to a person let alone someone blinded by hate. Here’s something you may not know : Throughout history , people in constant war and that constantly lose family members will have a great number of children. Half the population is less than 18 years old. Hopefully, you’re less dumb now.

Hyperreality ,

They could go the Russian way. Forcibly conscript them based on their ethnicity, like Putin does to Muslims in Russia, then send them to the meatgrinder in Ukraine.

Snowpix ,
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You’re legitimately advocating for committing terrorism. What is wrong with you and who raised you? Terrorism in revenge for terrorism is still terrorism and needless death of innocent civilians.

Diabolo96 , (edited )

I just suggested to do what Israel is already doing but oh, now it’s terrorism. But not against the palistinians

Snowpix ,
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It’s terrorism regardless of who does it. Is that really so difficult to understand?

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