The New York Times tried to block the Internet Archive: another reason to value the latter

rebul , 8 months ago

We have always been at war with Oceania.

ubermeisters , 8 months ago

I hate to sound like such a darn boot licker, but if NYT doesn’t want Archive crawler on thier domain, what reason can you possibly come up with (legitimately, not based on your feelings) as to why they should have to allow this?

Private business gets to do private business things, nothing to see here other than that tbh.

gamermanh , 8 months ago

They want to hide shadow edits, something that brings up questions of journalistic integrity

If you can be trusted to be honest as a news source, you shouldn’t be a news source. IA helps keep them honest on this front

ubermeisters , 8 months ago

That reason is moot though, when it’s in thier purview.

I would encourage you to just never click on a New York Times link ever again like the rest of us probably plan on doing. That will speak lpuder than complaints that you can’t access the pay walled content for free anymore (we all know this is the actual reason people here are upset about this notion, let’s just be honest about that).

XbSuper , 8 months ago

Nobody is going to be honest about this. They’ll claim altruism, and shout until you give up.

ubermeisters , 8 months ago

I’m still calling them out, and they still know it. So that’s ok

Franzia , 8 months ago

Why ask the question if you’re gonna say “your reason is moot”?

drmoose , 8 months ago

Honestly as NYT subscriber I really doubt that people actually read NYT through archive or at least most of the archive reader wouldn’t convert anyway. To me it seems like a bad sign of them trying to hide something. Archive is a public way to track website changes which is very valuable for validating journalism.

In general NYT is trying to have their content public and take advantage of indexing but also private for selling subscriptions. It’s a bit of a paradox that really diminishes their position here.

grue , 8 months ago

^ This sort of bullshit argument is why we never should’ve stopped requiring a copy of everything to be sent to the Library of Congress in order to earn copyright protection.

AllonzeeLV , 8 months ago (edited 8 months ago)

If I’ve learned anything in life, it’s that the capitalists will get their way one way or another against any attempts at human benevolence or community.

They always do.

I have high hopes for climate change though. It can’t be bribed or coerced into obscurity. I think the capitalists bit off more than they can hide from trying to exploit mother earth for private profit like just another peasant sucker, and unlike us cowering capital batteries, she’s had it with our species’ shit.