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Hamas militant group has started a war that 'Israel will win,' [Israeli] defense minister says

Israel’s defense minister announced that the Hamas militant group has started a war against Israel and pledged that "Israel will win.”

Following a security cabinet meeting at the Israeli military headquarters in Tel Aviv, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant warned that Hamas “made a grave mistake” in launching barrages of rockets into southern and central Israel in its surprise morning attack.

In one of the most serious escalations in years between Israel and the militant group that rules Gaza, Hamas gunmen crossed the border fence at several places and infiltrated Israeli communities.

S_204 ,

I keep hearing from the River to the Sea on this site… looks like Hamas is going to get their wish.

Netanyahu is going to use this attack as excuse to level the strip, wonder if Haifa will expand or if they’ll bother to rebuild Hebron?

The Saudis are abandoning the Palestinians and joining the Abraham accord. Hamas has condemned the people of that region to death. This is terrible.

bradorsomething ,

I think we can all agree that this is a bad thing and a lot of people will die, regardless of ideology or affiliation. Let’s all start there.

xenomor ,

“started a war”

That’s rich.

praise_idleness , (edited )

I try not to pick a side as I have no connections to either sides whatsoever but one is a homophobic misogynistic religion nut terrorists and the other is secular(somewhat), democratic country.

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

the other is secular(somewhat), democratic country.

That practices ethnic cleansing (this one is kinda dubious) and apartheid.

PugJesus ,
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Both sides are really shitty, unfortunately. Hamas isn't Fatah - Hamas is a bunch of far-right theocratic loons who maintain an iron grip on the Palestinian population in the Gaza Strip. Israel has, since the 1980s, become increasingly right-wing and ethnonationalist, putting Palestinians under a regime that treats them as second-class, at best, and treating them as nuisances to be removed for Israeli settlements.

Nacktmull ,
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They will win and then there will finally be peace in the region, right?

Hiccup ,

Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate Israel.

praise_idleness ,

Oh they love children alright

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    Hiccup ,

    When they stop hurting themselves in their confusion and sabotaging the peace process, then maybe a peace will come. Right now, as it stands, they couldn’t care less for their own self determination, success, livelihood, existence etc. Nothing they do now will accomplish anything.

    Nacktmull ,
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    I am pretty sure to achieve peace both sides would have to stop sabotaging the peace process.

    Hiccup ,

    What exactly have the Palestinians brought to the peace process? What have they ever agreed to?

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    Hiccup ,

    I only have 1 account on lemmy. I honestly have better things to do.

    AdlachGyfiawn , (edited )
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    What are they obligated to agree to? If I kick in the door to your house, what right do I have to discuss which half belongs to me?

    Israel should have to surrender all of their illegally-occupied land and at the very least retreat to the UN-approved 1947 borders.

    saraabi ,

    Tell me you’ve never spoken to a Palestinian without telling me you’ve never spoken to a Palestinian

    Hiccup ,

    I’ve spoken to plenty and frequent a felafel shop run by Palestinians. They got out of there because of the bullshit.

    Fester ,

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    mholiv , (edited )

    The important part is that you feel morally superior to both sides.

    Edit: the person above me edited their comment. The original version was them rambling on about supporting any side being the equivalent of being excited for WW3.

    merthyr1831 ,

    The (world) news lemmy communities being true to their reddit influences by only posting about Israel and Palestine when it can be skewed as an unprovoked attack against the poor oppressed racist settlers civilian pariahs

    Sivalente , (edited )

    This isn’t just rocket attacks. There are technicals driving throughout streets shooting civilians, hostages and houses burnt down. Reports of hundreds of people ariving at hospitals. Over 500 reported injured and 20 dead so far.

    Not military targets. Not government facilities. People’s homes and communities.

    Bonskreeskreeskree ,

    So innocent people like the Palestinians regularly murdered by Isreal soldiers?

    Hiccup ,

    Israel doesn’t target civilians, nor fires indiscriminately. These are like the crazies that shoot up schools and concerts in the USA.

    randon31415 ,

    Yes, the IDF doesn’t target civilians just like how American police don’t target African americans.

    saraabi ,

    This is demonstrably, objectively false. There are literally dozens of UN reports with clear evidence that Israel routinely targets civilians. They literally just bombed a five story apartment building an hour ago. Look up “mowing the grass”

    IchNichtenLichten ,
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    Stop gaslighting please.

    BraveSirZaphod , (edited )
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    Those are horrific as well, but it's simply not true that the IDF roams around Palestinian villages murdering every Palestinian they find, and you know that.

    For starters, if they did, there wouldn't be very many left.

    This childish need to see one side as unequivocally good and the other bad must be discarded or people find themselves cheering for citizens to murdered while waiting for the bus, and if you've gotten to that point, something has gone deeply wrong.

    Potatos_are_not_friends ,

    Are you really doing a whataboutism while there are literal terrorists shooting up households right now?

    Holy shit dude you have no fucking soul.

    Landrin201 ,
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    Hamas mutilated a woman’s corpse then paraded it through the streets this morning. I’ve never even heard of Israel doing something remotely close.

    Bust sure keep doing antisemitic whataboutism.

    Bonskreeskreeskree ,

    eVerYtHinG i dOnt lIkE iS aNti sEmitIcisim

    sugarfree ,
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    It’s clear from the footage coming out of southern Israel right now that the goal of Hamas is to simply kill as many Jews as possible. Either you stand with Israel right now or you stand with genocide. You can no longer claim ignorance of the crimes of Hamas if you associate yourself with the “” cause.

    Chickenstalker ,

    Lol. Israel commits genocide daily. It’s like Zionists read the Nazi’s guide book to pogroms and concentration camps. Cry harder.

    S_204 ,

    Given 20% of Israelis are Arabs, it’s obvious you don’t understand what genocide is. Hamas is currently performing pogroms in Israel, you’ve fallen victim to propaganda and your ignorance is clear.

    I’m not crying either, and I won’t be when Gaza gets turned to fucking glass this week and every single terrorist is blown away.

    From the river to the sea, Israel will be free!

    BunkerBusterKeaton ,

    look at this genocide advocate, showing their whole ass.

    fuck off you racist piece of shit

    Shalakushka ,
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    This take makes perfect sense if you have been paying attention for only the last twelve seconds of history

    Bonskreeskreeskree ,

    Critiscm of Israel and their treatment of Palestinians is not antisemitic. It is not supporting genocide. Take a look in the mirror.

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    S_204 ,

    Are you claiming that the land of Judea doesn’t belong to the Jews? Cuz that’s kinda fucked up. The archeological record is pretty clear regarding the ongoing presence in the region.

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    S_204 ,

    So you’re admitting that the Ottomans tried to ethnically cleansed the Jews from the region with a good amount of success, which the record shows to be true.

    Now can you recognize that the Judean people are exercising their right to return?

    burntbutterbiscuits ,

    No

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