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Shutdown risk looms as US Congress faces spending, impeachment brawl

The House and the Democratic-controlled Senate are due to be in session for about 12 days before funding expires on Sept. 30, leaving little time to agree on a package of 12 appropriations bills that can pass each chamber and win Democratic President Joe Biden’s signature.

The main bone of contention among House Republicans is a demand by roughly three-dozen members of the hardline House Freedom Caucus to cut spending for fiscal 2024 to $1.47 trillion – about $120 billion less than Biden and Republican House Speaker Kevin McCarthy agreed in May.

The White House and Senate leaders – including top Republican Mitch McConnell – have rejected that demand.

That dispute and other hardline demands, including opposition to Ukraine aid and calls for an impeachment inquiry against Biden, could imperil efforts to pass a short-term stopgap, known as a continuing resolution or “CR,” which would keep federal agencies afloat while lawmakers debate full-scale appropriations.

Rhaedas ,
@Rhaedas@kbin.social avatar

The only thing that helps this headline stand out from so many "uh no, shutdown" headlines of the past is the included impeachment part. The shutdown will be used to its fullest drama potential just like before until the very end with some compromise, and the impeachment as well.

Is this impeachment about Hunter Biden, or have they moved on from that nonsense? Oh, it's about Joe Biden. Well, let's see what evidence you have to work with and...oh, you don't have any yet? That's kind of necessary, guys.

dingus ,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

oh, you don’t have any [evidence] yet? That’s kind of necessary, guys.

Conservatives: Is it, though? I don’t need proof to know God exists…

These people live and breathe a false reality of a hierarchy that starts with God, who famously refuses to prove he exists, because otherwise people wouldn’t have “faith” and for some reason God really needs you to trust him without any evidence, and if you don’t… you’re going to Hell to burn for eternity.

Huh, sounds a lot like the abusive demands of the conservatives. I wonder where they learned to be like that.

It was, and always has been, a cult of purposeful ignorance.

KoboldCoterie ,
@KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

You’ll never convince me that they actually believe in God. If they did, they’d have to face the fact that the Bible disagrees with most of what they do. I think they just use their rhetoric about God as a means to an end, to capture the Christian voting bloc.

SheeEttin ,

I didn’t know that that was in doubt.

YoBuckStopsHere ,
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

I’m so tired of Conservatives shutting down the government.

Fapper_McFapper ,

I’m so tired of conservatives.

That’s my version.

dingus ,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

They don’t even want to conserve anything good. Their whole “family values” trope is just an engine for violent abusive men to have a green light to be violent and abusive to their families without repercussion.

Every single thing they want to “conserve” are all the things holding humanity back.

chaogomu ,

They want to conserve the power of white male supremacy and the outsized power of wealth on society.

That's the entire platform. They want select white men to have all the wealth and power, with descending social hierarchies that are fixed in stone.

So yes, everything that was wrong with the past, everything that is still holding us back. Literally so.

This thread talks about how 15-20% of the economic growth of the last 60 years was driven by being slightly less shitty to women and black people.

dingus ,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

Businesses already know that diversity and acceptance mean more profits. They don’t even care about the value of human life.

They just figured out that:

  • Not discriminating means they have a wider group of people to sell their products to, thus most profit
  • Not discriminating means they have a wider group of people to hire, thus better, more competent hires
  • Not discriminating means fewer people have a negative outlook of their company and are less likely to boycott their products

None of that has anything to do with accepting/understanding that all human life has intrinsic value. It’s just about profits.

Yet they would dump those profits down the drain just so they could discriminate a little longer, fucking idiots.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yep. Just like how the U.S. military is spending a huge amount of money investing on doing what they can to protect themselves from climate change. It’s not because they’re woke liberals, it’s because they see the writing on the wall.

thefartographer ,

15-20% of the economic growth of the last 60 years was driven by being sightly less shitty to women and black people

But what’s even the point in having money if I can still get cancelled for calling my wife the n-word in a restaurant full of obviously-criminal Mexicans?

SheeEttin ,

Republicans aren’t even the conservative party any more, they’re regressives. The current conservatives are the establishment Democrats, like Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden. (And yes, before someone jumps on it saying he was talking to rich people, I know. If anything, that’s worse.)

bobman ,

Every conservative woman I know is a single mother with a deadbeat baby daddy.

Funny how these white people became what they criticized blacks of for so long.

MoonlitKnight ,

I’m so tired

TopShelfVanilla ,

I’m

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

This is entirely avoidable. They could fund the government for the next century if they wanted to.

dingus ,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

Aren’t these the same people who absolutely lost their shit over a “lockdown” that wasn’t a lockdown and “shutting down” the economy during a worldwide pandemic?

So, in some reality, they understand that wholesale shutting things down without a plan is a bad thing, huh?

When will anyone wake up and start screaming in these motherfuckers faces “You’re painfully transparently operating in bad faith, you piece of shit!”

noxy ,
@noxy@yiffit.net avatar

They know they’re hypocrites. They’re ok with it. You can’t shame a Nazi as they are proudly goosestepping, that’s just an entirely pointless exercise.

slowd0wn ,

Republicans pulled this same shit during Obama’s tenure. They have no intention of negotiating in good faith. They want the shutdown so they can point their fingers at Dems during their campaigns in the coming year. We’ll have a shutdown, suspending important government agencies and furloughing hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans just to manufacture an anti-liberal talking point.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

This is an annual occurrence now. It’s just break time for senators while they get to point fingers. You’re right on all accounts here. We should have term limits on these senators and get some new people who may actually want to… idk… govern or something

dingus ,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, these people don’t want to govern, they want to rule.

CherenkovBlue ,
@CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

It’s the House that is the problem right now. The Senate might actually ram a bipartisan spending bill down their throats, they are apparently tired of this shit as well.

Uncle_Bagel ,

They had a shutdown when they were in charge of congress and the White House a few years ago.

bennel ,

In Canada and the UK, if the government fails to pass a budget, it triggers an automatic vote of no confidence, parliament is dissolved, and it triggers a general election.

US politicians do not suffer any consequences for failing to do their job.

scrubbles ,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Why do you gotta hurt me with these wonderful ideas that will never happen here?

bobman ,

Let’s just do direct voting.

Solves so many problems when people get to directly vote on the problems that matter to them.

Prox ,

Shit, they did the same thing this year with the debt ceiling. And now they’re already going back on the promises they made. No reason to negotiate with these terrorists.

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