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Neato ,
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We need corporate death sentences. If a corporation is liable for a certain number of deaths (either over time or per incident), a certain amount of environmental damage, or violating laws like human trafficking, child labor, etc, then that corporate should have it's charter revoked. It shouldn't be allowed to keep existing and be forced to sell off assets.

Son_of_dad ,

If corporations are people too, they should be put in prison. No conducting business for one year. If your company caused deaths, your company is now in trial and executed if found guilty. Company gutted and victims paid out.

NumbersCanBeFun ,
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    Zron ,

    All fines should be proportional to gross revenue.

    If your business is fined, it should cut deep, anything else isn’t a punishment

    NaibofTabr ,

    My take on this is that any and all revenue that can be identified as the product of the crime should be automatically forfeit. The fine should be assessed in addition to the lost revenue. Profiting from crime shouldn’t be allowed, and getting caught should be too much risk for it to be worthwhile.

    If losing the revenue threatens the existence of your business, that’s too effing bad.

    AllonzeeLV ,

    The laws are being repealed in some states and going unenforced/under-enforced in others because the owner’s capital batteries are too poor and correctly pessimistic to make new capital batteries, and our owners won’t allow that to hurt their profit generation. Enter creative labor pool solutions.

    Same reason abortion privileges are being revoked. A destitute, unwanted child will make a model desperate capital battery.

    Labor. Consume. Breed.

    PeleSpirit ,

    They need the poors to fight their wars and work on their factory floors.

    FlowVoid ,

    Up to 800 incidents when an employee illegally worked more than the maximum hours.

    So that’s over $300 per incident, which means the extra hours were not worth it.

    mosiacmango ,

    They are always worth it, unless you get caught. Since getting caught is unlikely, and the fine for getting caught is paltry, it just makes sense in capitalist land to keep doing it.

    pjhenry1216 ,

    Nah, still worth it. Probably cost less than hiring multiple people and training them. Probably even got away with paying less per hour than someone who can work more hours legally too.

    FlowVoid ,

    That’s $300+ per illegal shift. Which does not seem worth it to me, regardless of how much the employee was paid.

    MelodiousFunk ,
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    That’s $300+ per illegal shift

    ...that they were caught for.

    pjhenry1216 ,

    It likely costs them a whole lot more to hire multiple people. There are more costs associated with employees than just wage. Thats why turnover costs money. And a few dollars more per hour over three years over how many people in their 20 locations?

    This is likely a wash for them compared to hiring more people or paying more to get older people.

    Let's bear in mind this is by far the smallest fine they've been hit with for child labor and they keep doing it. I can't imagine their accountants are that bad.

    shottymcb ,

    800 known incidents, in one city, from a national chain.

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