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ColeSloth ,

People overblowing shit like wild.

He bought the rope, and pd will only say so much to the public. They’ll tell the family.

From what has been revealed, there’s two really obvious likelihoods. Suicide, and auto erotic asphyxiation. With the rope just being wrapped around his neck and him not up in the air, I’m leaning towards the latter. Bet he was thinking the rope would unwind if he blacked out, but it didn’t.

Tja ,

It’s only lynching if it’s commited in the Lynch region of the deep south. Otherwise it’s just sparkling hate crime.

PugJesus ,

Obviously the investigation should be thorough to rule out alternatives, especially considering the history of such racist crimes, but it may legitimately be a suicide.

saltesc ,

This should be an interesting one for seeing who reads articles and who reads just headlines.

RoidingOldMan ,

I can see why the sheriff doesn’t want to rush to call it lynching when there isn’t evidence of lynching specifically. BUT it appears to be a horrific and violent crime that surely should be their first priority. Sheriff’s statement is downplaying the whole thing.

Maeve ,

No defensive wounds, if the sheriff''s office isn't lying.

saltesc ,

Well, they themselves are bringing in the SBI and Attorney General’s Office. If they’re lying, they just fucked themselves hard for no reason.

It seems they’re actually being extremely thorough.

TrickDacy ,
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Well yes if they had said “by technicality this is not a lynching, but it certainly smells like one” I don’t think we’d be thinking the sheriff is fucked in the head. But he didn’t say that

ColeSloth ,

There are 50,000 suicides a year in the US and only 22,000 murders, but y’all suspect it’s more likely a guy with his feet on the ground, a rope not even tied, no defensive wounds, and a rope he bought himself, is a murder victim instead of the far outnumbering suicides.

finickydesert ,
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I got a lot of negative comments I could make; I will not. The only comment I will make will be that I hope he has evidence it isn’t.

cybervseas ,

“The young man was not dangling from a tree. He was not swinging from a tree. The rope was wrapped around his neck. It was not a noose. There was not a knot in the rope, so therefore, it was not a lynching here in Vance County.”

Umm, are you saying it wasn’t a lynching on a technicality? Everyone in the south must be Olympic level mental gymnasts. In particular to say there’s no evidence of foul play, at least.

This is like Russian dissidents falling out of windows or down stairs.

AbouBenAdhem , (edited )

The legal definitions can be far removed from normal usage: in California “lynching” is when a crowd forcibly removes a suspect from police custody, which historically was often a prelude to what we would recognize as actual lynching (presumably so participants could be charged even if they were stopped before harming the victim). But it’s been used recently to charge protesters with “lynching” for interfering with the arrest of other protesters.

unemployedclaquer ,

That is interesting that it has bespoke legal definitions. The Wikipedia entry is what I expected

Lynching is an extrajudicial killing by a group. It is most often used to characterize informal public executions by a mob in order to punish an alleged transgressor, punish a convicted transgressor, or intimidate people. It can also be an extreme form of informal group social control, and it is often conducted with the

andyburke ,
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He said Magee went to a nearby Walmart shortly before he died. That is where he is believed to have bought the rope found around his neck.

If this young man bought the rope himself, if there is evidence of this like surveillance video, that paints this situation in a pretty different light.

dohpaz42 ,
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Call it what you will, it’s a travesty and should be taken very seriously. But, this is the south, and most southerners love to mince words; especially when it comes to race and politics.

RamblingPanda ,

“Special strangulation operation”

ColeSloth ,

Read between the lines, from what they revealed.

His feet were on the ground.

He bought the rope himself.

He was found not far from his semi.

The rope was wrapped around his neck and not tied together.

The guy was doing some self choking to get off. His “safety” was thinking that if he blacked out the rope would drop off him, but it didn’t work.

spankmonkey ,

Brame told ABC11 that there were no signs of foul play in Magee’s death.

Suicide and lynching can look similar. The officer said no signs of foul play first, then got a little too technical on the details of lynching as a response to speculation which probabky contained those details.

Yes, the response about specific details sounds ridiculous in a vacuum. But keep in mind that what he is saying is also a way to describe why a suicide isn’t a lynching.

At least the police are reaching out to an external agency to hopefully provide some conformation on the circumstances.

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