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FlyingSquid , (edited )
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Trump on the peaceful transfer of power and January 6th: “I told people to be peaceful and patriotic when they were rioting and no one was killed on their side, but Ashley Babbit was shot by an evil cop and the rioters were treated badly. What about the killers coming over the border? She was the border czar, but she doesn’t want to be called that because she’s embarrassed about it. When are they going to be prosecuted? They’re coming from all over the world, not South America and crime is down all over the world. When are they going to be prosecuted? What about the people who burned down Minneapolis? What about the people who took over a large amount of Seattle!”

Moderator: “Do you regret what happened?”

Trump: “I just showed up to make a speech and I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of D.C. and I said- it wasn’t a riot by me- and I said I’d like to give you the national guard and they both rejected me and her daughter has a tape saying she was responsible for what happened. It was their fault because she was responsible for security.”

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Nice. He just can’t accept any level of responsibility for anything ever. To a sane person, this is a terrible response.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Trump rebuts the sane responses by Harris on January 6th: “It was a different term and it was a term that was related to energy because they destroyed our energy business. Fox News people proved that I never praised Nazis in Charlottesville. You talk about the Capitol: Why are we allowing illegals in? Let’s leave this debate right now and go down to Washington D.C. and let her sign a bill to close up the border because they have the right to do it. They don’t need bills. You wake up the president because he’ll be asleep to go sign a bill and if they do that, the border is closed. Those people are killing many people, not January 6th.”

Yes, he doesn’t know that congress passes bills.

HubertManne ,

oh man I can't wait to hear him complain about abc with these questions with the attack on the capital. HOW DARE THEY!!!

HubertManne ,

debunked by every newspaper. saun hannity. laura ingram. lol

BeMoreCareful ,

That was said SaRCasTiCllY

HubertManne ,

oh my god. he said his statements that he lost 2020 was sarcasm on his part. I mean. I mean. oh man. this guy.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Trump on the election: “I don’t acknowledge I lost in 2020. I said it sarcastically when I said I lost. There’s so much proof. They should have sent it back to the legislature. I got the most votes. People should never think an election is a fraud. We need a wall and we need elections. They are trying to get illegal immigrants to vote. No judge said we had standing on the election fraud cases, that’s a technicality. Can you believe that? I was the president! You do an ABC special on it. We have facts and statistics. But that’s old news and we need to solve the problem right now because we have a nation in decline and it is dying.”

SnotFlickerman , (edited )
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It’s clear they’re trying so hard to lean on the illegal voting. He’s hammering it because he told Mike Johnson to shut down the government and I don’t know who chose the plan of attack for why to shut it down, but he’s trying to stay on the message they chose and is absolutely flailing.

It’s all a ploy to back up their upcoming shutdown. I’m glad to hear it sounds like its going down like a torpedo.

reddig33 ,

Did Kamala leave? Because I’m just seeing ABC let Trump talk all he wants.

xmunk ,

We won the election… let me get my buddy Mike Lindell on the horn!

The dude who just said he lost the election

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Nice. Harris: “World leaders laugh at you including military people I’ve talked to who work with you.” (Again, a paraphrase.)

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Trump: “Viktor Orban is a tough person and smart. They said why is the whole world blowing up? It wasn’t 3 years ago. Orban said it’s because China and North Korea and Russia were afraid of Trump. I ended the Nord Stream II pipeline but Biden put it back. He ended the XL pipeline but let the Russians do that. Viktor Orban said the most respected most feared person was Trump and we had no problems when he was president. Biden got millions of votes and they threw her out of office. Here’s a secret: he hates her. She got zero votes.”

HubertManne ,

showing love for vikto orban on national tv. bold move.

SnotFlickerman , (edited )
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It plays well with his authoritarian base, it probably won’t play well with everyone else.

But to be fair, it can be compared to Hillary Clinton being proud of her friendship with Kissinger. It didn’t play well for Clinton, either.

Substance_P ,

Viktor Orbán???

Zerlyna ,
@Zerlyna@lemmy.world avatar

🤣

themadcodger ,
@themadcodger@kbin.earth avatar

The most respectable leader in the world!

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

He’s a tough guy!

MataVatnik ,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

He’s a strongman!

EmpatheticTeddyBear ,

That’s a bold move Cotton

HubertManne ,

biden let them build pipelines in europe!!!

Shadow ,
@Shadow@lemmy.ca avatar

She’s baiting the crap out of him, and he keeps taking it before going off rambling. It’s great.

Please America I hope the people that need to watch this, are doing so.

AlexanderESmith ,

All 3 braincells will try to understand, and fail. All they hear is "bad lady tell lie, orange tell best truth".

MataVatnik ,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Kinda sad but likely the outcome.

spankmonkey , (edited )

These hosts are absolutely awful. Every time he rambles and lies, they give Harris a new topic. Occasionally they ask a question and barely point out that he didn’t answer it.

The hosts need to hold him to a debate, not let him play it like a Trump rally.

Harris is doing fantastic.

AlexanderESmith ,

They called him out on that insane 9mo abortion nonsense, and the people eating pets.

Honestly, that's the moon compared to usual.

spankmonkey ,

They half heartedly disagreed and let him repeat it again, just like they won’t correct him every time he lies about immigrant crime. It might be slightly better than past debates, but they are absolutely letting him run the show.

MataVatnik ,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, that’s the moon compared to usual.

Real

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Everything he said is a lie. They would spend the whole debate rebutting him.

spankmonkey ,

Nah, actually correct him and mute his mic and he would storm off the stage like a giant baby.

barsquid ,

This is what should happen. Blatant lie means you lose time for corrections.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

It’s really infuriating. Every time he’s asked a question, and she gets a rebuttal, he just starts rebutting her rebuttal and they just let him. And half the time what he’s says has nothing to do with the question that was asked. They cut Kamala off pretty much every time.

dylanmorgan ,

They should have gotten this guy to moderate.

https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/b282d5d3-8d89-45fb-80b8-bc0f203ab204.gif

spankmonkey , (edited )

Oh look, Harris wanted to respond out of turn one time and the hosts shut her down after letting Trump interrupt all night.

It really deems like he has been allowed to talk for twice the time as Harris. Anyone keeping track?

ape_arms ,

www.cnn.com/2024/09/10/politics/…/index.html

spankmonkey ,

Wow, his 15% more time that he was able to get by interrupting and not shutting up when his time was up sure felt a lot longer than it was.

sh00g ,

This is the first time we have seen moderators actually fact check Trump live. I’ll take that in spite of the interruptions.

spankmonkey ,

They were meek and let him talk over them. I guess more than zero is better than nothing, but it is a pretty low bar.

ininewcrow ,
@ininewcrow@lemmy.ca avatar

This is too stupid for me … I turned if off and will just watch the highlights tomorrow

And this is supposed to be a contest for leadership of the most powerful, most developed, most modern nation in the world?

The worst part of all this is that everyone on the planet will be affected by what Americans will decide on … and that is an absolutely scary idea.

tal , (edited )
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I remember Family Guy poking fun at the presidential debates with Bush about two decades back.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm3d43HLyTI

I feel like things have tended to head downhill since then.

rusticus ,

Harris was fantastic though

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