There have been multiple accounts created with the sole purpose of posting advertisement posts or replies containing unsolicited advertising.

Accounts which solely post advertisements, or persistently post them may be terminated.

Maryland police officer convicted of tossing smoke bomb at police during Capitol riot

A Maryland police officer was convicted on Friday of charges that he joined a mob’s Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol and hurled a smoke bomb and other objects at police officers guarding a tunnel entrance.

U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden heard two days of trial testimony without a jury this week before he found Montgomery County Police Officer Justin Lee guilty of two felonies and three misdemeanors. The judge, who also acquitted Lee of two other misdemeanors, is scheduled to sentence him on Nov. 22.

Lee, 26, ignited and threw a smoke bomb into the tunnel entrance on the Capitol’s Lower West Terrace, where a mob of rioters attacked a group of outnumbered police officers. The device struck a police officer’s riot shield and filled the mouth of the tunnel with a large plume of smoke, prosecutors said.

MediaBiasFactChecker Bot ,

Associated Press - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)Information for Associated Press:
> MBFC: Left-Center - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: High - United States of America
> Wikipedia about this source

CourtListener - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)Information for CourtListener:
> MBFC: Least Biased - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: High - United States of America
> Wikipedia about this source

Search topics on Ground.Newshttps://apnews.com/article/maryland-police-officer-justin-lee-capitol-riot-jan-6-0c624ca80878e1e17f25066ee973aca5
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.261013/gov.uscourts.dcd.261013.39.0.pdf

Media Bias Fact Check | bot support

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S ,
@PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

L bozo

Cephalotrocity ,

ACAB. Some get convicted.

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

What is the meaning behind all cops are bastards, really?

  • Are we utilizing an identical equivalent to racial stereotypes?
  • Were the Capitol Police who defended against these insurrectionists bastards? For example, Eugene Goodman who routed the mob away?
  • If anything, wouldn’t this almost invoke a self-fulfilling prophecy?
  • Are all cops bastards, or are only certain police cultures bastards? For example I’ve seen comparative documentaries of cops in other countries from Norway to Canada and not all cops are of the same quality.

So as much as it feels that way sometimes, not all cops are bastards. But if you give cops minimum and shit training and low pay you’re going to attract more scum, absolutely. To be a Registered Nurse, for instance, requires far more education, testing, continued education, etc.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

While others will surely fill you in further, ill table this idea for ya

  • Are we utilizing an identical equivalent to racial stereotypes?

No. because a cop stops being an “”“”“oppressed minority”“”‘’" (needs more quotes fr) as soon as they take off the badge

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

Sorry I don’t really buy that logic since some shithead right-winger bigot could just say a trans person can stop being an oppressed minority the moment they stop taking their hormone medications.

At the end of the day, the exact same sort of fallacious logic persists: A judgment of all within a population based on the perceptions of a subset of that population.

Logically, if I prove merely one cop is a good person, then the claim of all is simply wrong.

Cephalotrocity ,

It is akin to the idiom “1 rotten apple spoils the bunch”. Even a ‘good cop’ covers for, or supports directly or indirectly bad ones. Their internal culture is manifestly rotten with an “us vs them” mentality.

Spends the day cursing being surrounded by criminals, at best trying to ignore racist jokes, and gets lucky nobody challenges their supreme authority so doesn’t get on the news: a good cop (for now)

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

Understand that I make the following claim only to prove the fallacy in both: Racists will utilize this exact same argument — and HAVE with me — that the “bad apples” of inner-city gang violence leads to the fact that the entire culture is shit because even the “good apples,” don’t have enough clout to change the tide.

And yet, while true that crime is higher in these areas, it skirts the big picture as to the why, which in the case of inner-city violence it revolves around trans-generational discrimination, poor education, and simply population density — and similarly the WHY of cops having predominantly shitty cultures revolves around bigger issues and not so much the, “good cop didn’t stand up enough to the bad cops” I suspect.

The problem is you can criticize the wider problem of poor policing and demand massive reforms and cultural shifts without applying needless stereotypes cast on those who are trying to make a difference in the culture — simply because the “good” cops do not always out-number the bad cops in districts. So under this “ACAB” movement, it tends to have the opposite effect and lead to people who might be good cops to steer away from that career because they know they’ll just be listed as another bastard because they didn’t fight hard enough against the cultural shift… So ultimately, where does change reasonably, practically begin?

curbstickle , (edited )

Not everyone is in a gang (and I’ll leave the gang part out of this, because that IS racist, along with the whole inner-city bit, but that’s a separate conversation on how laws were written to specifically allow cops to target racial groups)

But anyone who is a cop is in the gang that is the police.

No, the two things are not remotely equitable. One is about a group of chosen profession, the other is an entire racial group being associated with crime. That’s an argument that’s as flimsy as a wet paper bag.

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

Naturally in my example, the inner-city gang are the bad cops and the inner-city family and community leaders trying to make a difference are the “good cops” who just can’t seem to budge the numbers. If we were to use the logic applied by ACAB, then it’s all futile and any attempt at cultural change is pointless because change hasn’t occurred yet or fast enough.

I think they are quite comparable. Both rely on a) an extremely obvious misrepresentation of the root of the problem, and b) a fallacious stereotyping of a group based on a subset of the population.

curbstickle ,

Naturally in my example, the inner-city gang are the bad cops and the inner-city family and community leaders trying to make a difference are the “good cops” who just can’t seem to budge the numbers

So one set of cops who are all cops, and an unrelated set of people where the only defining factor is race.

Right. Its a racist, nonsensical argument from the start, that isn’t remotely comparable.

Both rely on a) an extremely obvious misrepresentation of the root of the problem

Nope. Only one does. Modern policing is the root of the problem, from the way they were formed and structured.

b) a fallacious stereotyping of a group based on a subset of the population.

Negative, only one is fallacious, the racist argument. As modern policing is the root of the problem, all police are complicit in its continuation.

Your argument is a total crock.

tlou3please ,

I’m an ex cop and the whole attitude is really reductionist and lacks any insight into how police organisations actually tend to work. Especially when it comes to large forces with tens of thousands of officers and staff - for example, by assuming that corrupt officers and cultures are evenly distributed throughout an organisation, which they’re not. It just doesn’t work like that and it’s a frankly juvenile attitude lacking in any nuance.

I’m saying this as someone with a degree in Criminology (in which my dissertation was on policing in ethnically diverse communities), a Master’s in human rights law, and several years of experience in a large force (which I left due to service related PTSD). I feel quite qualified to comment on it. ACAB is detached from how corruption actually works in the real world, discounts the good work of a lot of very good people, and offers zero solution or viable alternative. I can completely understand having a negative impression of the police given their media attention these days but ACAB is teenager-level critical thinking that does not acknowledge the complexity of the problem and spits in the face of many good people.

To be clear I’m not just bootlicking - I hated my previous employer (for separate reasons) and have no good will for them. There ARE problems with policing in 2024, as there always have been before, and they need acknowledging and fixing. But the ACAB narrative doesn’t work for me. And it’s more than a little ironic that you are using that narrative while simultaneously criticising an “us vs them” approach.

Cephalotrocity ,

Even a ‘good cop’ covers for, or supports directly or indirectly bad ones.

I’m an ex cop and…

Thanks for literally proving my point.

yesman ,

ACAB is about the whole system of law enforcement being corrupt and not the characteristics of individual pigs.

tlou3please ,

But the phrase literally means “all cops are bastards”.

It is LITERALLY and DIRECTLY saying that every individual officer has the characteristic of being a bastard.

bradorsomething ,

Were the Capitol Police who defended against these insurrectionists bastards? For example, Eugene Goodman who routed the mob away?

I feel when you have to cherrypick examples, it hurts the argument rather than helps.

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

I feel that by discrete logic, I only need to provide one single example that you deflect in order to prove that not all are bastards. If 1 of the population != bastard; then not all are bastards. Period.

FilthyHands ,

Judge McFadden is on the case so I expect time served and 6 months probation.

Transporter_Room_3 ,
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

6 months probation??? What kind of world do we live in where such drastic punishments are forced upon such good people! Cruel and unusual!

Surely this poor man has suffered enough for trying to overthrow the government to install a fascist dictator!

Lightor ,

I hear they still haven’t caught the guy who started the whole thing.

Numenor ,

who smoke bombs the smoke bombers?

N0body ,

Porcine on porcine crime has to stop. Who do you even plant the drugs on? It’s madness.

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • •
  • [email protected]
  • random
  • lifeLocal
  • goranko
  • All magazines
    •