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Crazyslinkz ,

Who’s got a shocked Pikachu face…

unreachable ,
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dactylotheca ,
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the former president’s campaign has disavowed the project and recently went so far as to say its “demise would be greatly welcomed,” while Trump urged his supporters to boo it at a campaign rally.

You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t believe for a fucking second that this is anything but optics. It’s not like conservatives have to explicitly say they’re following the playbook, but they obviously already are – many Republican lawmakers are members of the conservative organizations that wrote the fucking thing (see eg. this bit of news from TN)

Quill7513 ,

Yeah for anyone really paying attention Project 2025 wasn’t the smoke, or even the fire. It’s just a picture of the fire that’s been burning since Barry Goldwater irrevocably shifted what the Republican party was and should be.That event shifted everything to the right because Democrats are still operating under the assumption that the two parties are left and right, and that the general populace sort of exists between the two. We see all those graphs about how only 40% of eligible American voters vote, and I think a lot of people read those charts wrong. Those aren’t voters who don’t give a shit, those are voters living in places where their jurisdiction is so skewed they don’t feel the need to vote, and people who look at the whole political system and see a massive shell game where everyone’s fighting to wield power, but no one’s really challenging if it’s good to live in such a top down administrative landscape where corporations are allowed to do whatever without accountability, and they don’t see much of anyone trying to do anything about that. Think about if you’re a DC or Hawaiian voter with deeply held social convictions and who’s running for office is a neo-fascist and a neo-liberal. How motivated are you to get to the polls when you know all your neighbors see the same thing you’re seeing. Your whole community is going to half heartedly show up for the neo-liberal, so you stay home, and then your jurisdiction goes 70% for the candidate you wanted. Sure, the margin could have been bigger if you showed up, but you’re broke and poor, and working those hours that day got you enough that you can celebrate with your kids tonight that the neo-fascist didn’t win. It’s been months since you had pizza. It would really make them happy watch the results roll in while you have a special treat.

We need this election to be a total shit show for the republicans. Like totally painting the canvas with them kinds of beat down. And then, come January, when the Democrats take office, we need to show up in the streets and show them we don’t like them either. Our politicians are so beholden to financiers and so isolated from our needs that I don’t even think they realize we don’t like any of them. Think about this. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, according to her positions, and according to polls of Americans, is completely aligned with American interests. She wants to do what we ALL want to do. And how many people see her as an evil virus from Satan because that’s what Fox told them she was. How many people see her as a naive idealist who doesn’t understand the full picture because that’s what NBC and CBS told them she is. She’s painted as a radical leftist when really… She’s a centrist. She’s the exact middle of America.

That’s the fucked up political reality we live in.

someguy3 , (edited )

everything to the right because Democrats are still operating under the assumption that the two parties are left and right

The Dems have had all 3 of the presidency, the house of representatives, and the Senate for 4 of the last 24 years. Or 6 of the last 32 years. They are forced to go to the center to find voters. They have been on an epic losing streak because the left never shows up to vote.

Quill7513 ,

I’m saying that the center isn’t where the voters are hiding. They’ve gotten dragged into the Republican vortex, and it’s working in the republicans favor. I do get what you’re saying though. The left in this current state of being does need to vote blue no matter who, but I think the dems are leaving votes out on the table by trying to appeal to a group of people who hasn’t existed for a long time: swing voters who might vote blue, or might vote red, they’re just not sure yet. They need to start asking “How do we get the voters who just… Aren’t”

someguy3 , (edited )

As bizarre as we find it, swing voters do exist. And they are worth double because it’s a vote taken away from the other party and a vote for you. That’s who they go for because the left never shows up.

ripcord , (edited )
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You’re both right, but I’d love to see some actual data showing who is more right.

Based on anecdotal evidence I would guess they are much more correct, and the segment you’re talking about exists but is pretty tiny.

someguy3 ,

Imo never underestimate how uninformed people are. Those are the swing voters.

hohoho ,
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I appreciate your comment, keep it up!

AngryCommieKender ,
Boozilla ,
@Boozilla@lemmy.world avatar

Americans want affordable housing, affordable health care, better gun regulations, a true ceasefire, and many other things that the establishment politicians don’t give AF about.

FlyingSquid ,
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I said this in another thread and I will keep repeating it because I think it’s important: if you know anyone who is a veteran or has a loved one who is a veteran, make sure they know that veteran’s benefits will be severely cut if Project 2025 is implemented.

Viking_Hippie ,

Their solution? The same thing but with more Trump 🤦🤬

rusticus ,

From the v1 Project 2025 website:

  • End no fault divorce
  • Complete ban on abortions without exceptions
  • Ban contraceptives
  • Ban IVF
  • Additional tax breaks for corporations and the 1%
  • Higher taxes for the working class
  • Elimination of unions and worker protections
  • Raise the retirement age
  • Cut Social Security
  • Cut Medicare
  • End the Affordable Care Act
  • Raise prescription drug prices
  • Eliminate the Department of Education
  • Use public, taxpayer money for private religious schools
  • Teach Christian religious beliefs in public schools
  • End free and discounted school lunch programs
  • End civil rights & DEI protections in government
  • Ban African American and gender studies in all levels of education
  • Ban books and curriculum about slavery
  • End climate protections
  • Increase Arctic drilling
  • Deregulate big business and the oil industry
  • Promote and expedite capital punishment
  • End marriage equality
  • Condemn single mothers while promoting only “traditional families”
  • Defund the FBI and Homeland Security
  • Use the military to break up domestic protests
  • Mass deportation of immigrants and incarceration in “camps”
  • End birth right citizenship
  • Ban Muslims from entering the country
  • Eliminate federal agencies like the FDA, EPA, NOAA and more
  • Continue to pack the Supreme Court, and lower courts with right-wing judges
  • Denying most veterans VA coverage
  • Privatizing Tricare
  • Classifying transpeople as "pornographic"
  • Banning gender-affirming care
  • Ban all porn
frunch ,

You’re telling me all that is unpopular??! The “Don’t Tread on Me” folks are falling over themselves to have this?

Sounds really non-tready, lol

teamevil ,

This list just reads as “the billionaire list of punishments for the poor that think they’re people” I say we craft the inverse list where literally everything the billionaires enjoy is legislated away, kind of like they want to legislate away our way of life we should legislate away their way of life or I guess legislative way their ability to have billions of dollars.

ripcord ,
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lol who downvoted this

Burn_The_Right ,

A conservative. Conservatives are the minions of the billionaires. We cannot regulate/destroy billionaires without first defeating conservatives.

aesthelete ,

Ban private jets

Ban megayachts

grubbyweasel ,

Classifying transpeople as “pornographic”

??

lolcatnip ,

What’s your question? Have you never seen conservatives scapegoat a minority group before?

anytimesoon ,

I found that confusing too, but I guess it pairs well with

  • Ban all porn
skyspydude1 ,

I think it’s mostly the association/“logic” being literally incomprehensible to someone with even the slightest capacity for reason. Classifying an entire group of people as “pornographic” is just so insanely nonsensical, it’s difficult to look at and think of it as anything other than some insane word salad.

jettrscga ,

It blows my mind that anyone can be that wrong on all topics.

It’s like the difference between choosing random answers on a multiple choice test versus knowing the right answers and actively avoiding them to get the worst result. It feels like they’re trying to punish the US for something.

jjjalljs ,

Right? Like I’ve thought about how political decisions would be harder if the Republicans weren’t reliably wrong on everything.

Like, if they were pro-gay-rights but anti-environment, that would be more of a thinker. But they’re just wrong on everything.

kn0wmad1c ,
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I always laugh when they say “ban contraceptives” because I guarantee that the men in congress voting for it have vasectomies. Are they going to reverse them?

catloaf ,

No, those with the means will still continue to get them, whether that’s knowing a doctor who will perform it illegally, or by traveling somewhere it’s legal. Same as abortion.

Myxomatosis ,

Dipshit Donald will never lose this albatross around his neck no matter how hard he tries.

homesweethomeMrL ,

I have to wonder what their point is. trump supporters pretend to not like it and it is the literal roadmap for what they’re 100% going to vote for. Most probably don’t care.

And saying Democrats don’t like it is like saying there’ll be a Tuesday next week.

SlopppyEngineer ,

It’s probably like in many religions: they respond on what their priest is saying and want their side to win, but never really studied the scriptures.

homesweethomeMrL ,

It’s a lot like that, yeah.

Reverendender ,

The candidate of the Face Eating Leopard Party swears he does not like, and will not use, the face eating manual for leopards.

JimSamtanko ,

Americans Humans don’t like Project 2025.

FTFY.

JimSamtanko ,

Americans Humans don’t like Project 2025.

FTFY.

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