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Nougat ,

She's said she'll be at ABC on Sep 10, and looks forward to debating Trump in the time and place he previously agreed to. She's holding his feet to the fire on this, I don't expect there to be any agreement on any other debate until this one is over.

g0nz0li0 ,

Explains why he was so antagonistic toward the ABC reporter at the National Association of Black Journalists. As bad as that makes him look outside of the MAGA bubble, it lets him make the pathetic argument that ABC was mean to him so he won’t go debate there. His fragile little ego is more important to him than winning the election. Good news for democracy lovers.

ZeroCool ,
@ZeroCool@feddit.org avatar

Trump is a weird, old, coward.

Lemminary ,

Between this and her openly calling him a criminal in her public statement, I can tell dis gon be gud. Oh, I’m cackling.

worldwidewave ,

“It’s interesting how ‘any time, any place’ becomes ‘one specific time, one specific safe space,’" she wrote on social media platform X. “I’ll be there on Sept. 10, like he agreed to. I hope to see him there.”

She’s definitely signaling that she’s going to give him a spanking at the debate. I really hope it happens, and he gets into his defensive mode where he really scrambles.

CitizenKong ,

We have already seen what he will do. He will call her rude and nasty and then try to argue she isn’t black. He’s a brocken record at this point.

Kecessa ,

What is gonna be good? She’s going to the ABC debate and he’s not

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

He wants Fox? Fine.

Do a two moderator combo. One from Fox, and the other is Jon Stewart or Rachel Maddow.

And if you want to get really messy, make the audience a 50/50 recruitment spit too. And assign seating at random.

Sterile_Technique ,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

And assign seating at random.

Whoa whoa… we don’t want there to be blood!

hoshikarakitaridia ,
@hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world avatar

If you wanna make it interactive, hide pool noodles under the seats and see what happens when people start antagonizing their seat neighbors.

Zahille7 ,

Keep going…

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

Jerry Springer, 2024 edition.

rhythmisaprancer ,
@rhythmisaprancer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

Who is the check being written to?

hogmomma ,

Stewart can play both roles on his own. He will not hesitate to call EITHER side out.

SuperCub ,

Yeah, Stewart is great, Maddow is a DNC shill. If they used an old school Republican like Chris Wallace from Fox, I wouldn’t be too concerned.

taiyang ,

50/50 split with random season will result in an all out Jerry Springer style brawl.

Yeah. I’d watch that.

RestrictedAccount ,

They would be sending a goon squad.

Don’t fall for it.

aramis87 ,

He was counting on the audience to yell over Kamala when she talked, and Faux to have mysterious technical issues when it came time for his mike to be muted.

Aurenkin ,

Seems reasonable. There is already an agreed upon time and place, anything other than that is back tracking by Trump. Even if they try to spin it to say he “agreed” to do it on Fox, to try and put the ball in Harris’ court. The reality is he already agreed to the ABC debate and any change is him backing out of that and pivoting.

Bonesince1997 ,

I may have missed something, and I don’t think it should really matter, but did he agree to debate Biden, Harris, or just generally “his opponent”? He still needs to do it, but I wonder if there was a specific agreement.

Edit: punctuation

RogueAozame , (edited )

From what I understand it’s anyone with over 15 percent or something in certain polls.

Edit: Could not verify electoral college vote requirement so I took it out.

modifier ,

Biden was the presumptive nominee at the time he originally agreed to it, and you’re right, it shouldn’t and doesn’t matter.

It is especially odd that his counter-proposed date ia before the previously agreed on date, which completely undermines the already weak claim that the change in candidate somehow inconveniences the Trump campaign.

I mean, it does, but only in the sense that the new crew are running circles around Trump and Co.

raynethackery ,

I hope they are doing a ton of debate prep with her. He’ll be hopped on drugs to keep him going. He may be a liar but he is also a bully and very bombastic. He doesn’t have to beat her on the issues he just has to overwhelm her.

the_joeba ,

I think her time as a criminal prosecutor will come in handy.

Mouselemming ,

In court there are rules even he had to obey. On Fox with a handpicked audience it would be chaos.

RampantParanoia2365 ,

Rejects means a No, fyi.

Kecessa ,

Good thing she refused to go, right?

profdc9 ,

Trump will be asking to duel with pistols next, except only he gets bullets.

kokesh ,
@kokesh@lemmy.world avatar

He is afraid to be alone in a room with her.

sebsch ,

As a old and weird man should be.

rhythmisaprancer ,
@rhythmisaprancer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

Maybe doing something at Fox could work, but it won't be a debate. It could be entertainment. It will be a waste of time in this arrangement. I think.

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks ,

Remember when Bernie went on Fox and got cheers? youtu.be/DV60Q8-B808

Kecessa ,

“Who’s gonna pay for healthcare?”

First world countries pay less per capita for universal healthcare than the US does to cover a minority and in the US the majority has to also pay for private coverage as well as the share of their taxes that goes to public healthcare coverage THAT THEY DON’T HAVE ACCESS TO. Implemented the right way, 100% public healthcare would actually save the US government money, implemented wrong it would still save people money because right now it’s for profit companies that cover them, the government isn’t a for profit business, it only needs to collect enough taxes to pay for the service.

rhythmisaprancer ,
@rhythmisaprancer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

That was pretty good! But it didn't get disseminated into the right wing news ecosystem. I don't thing Harris being in a debate on Fox news will, either.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

Makes sense. Gotta be neutral territory. She needs to propose an alternative. ABC is left leaning.

NegativeInf ,

NPR hosted debate in Switzerland.

nokturne213 ,

Can he go to Switzerland being a felon and all?

NegativeInf ,

At least he would end up in a jail, where he rightfully belongs.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

BBC hosted in Switzerland

ABCDE ,

I get your point, how is ABC left leaning though? I’m not up on my US media except for knowing CNN seems neutral, Fox being right.

g0nz0li0 ,

Also: left leaning versus right wing mouthpiece. ABC v Fox doesn’t seem like a fair comparison.

ABCDE ,

Is ABC really left? The Democrats are centre right in my Europerspective.

g0nz0li0 ,

Agree 100%

In Trump terms, left = anyone he disagrees with.

Mog_fanatic ,

That’s what I’ve always thought too. Like there’s being biased or leaning left or right or whatever… And then there’s Fox News. They are so far beyond that it’s seriously bordering on satire at this point. They don’t lean right, they fucking blasted off into outer space to the right on a rocket ship that’s still cruising off into the distance.

Cheems ,
@Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

Fox isn’t even news. By their own admission, they are for entertainment purposes only. They might as well debate on Nickelodeon

ABCDE ,

Right, that’s why I went for “media” I suppose.

FireTower ,
@FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

Here’s the abc media bias fact checker:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d3f6e256-406b-4fb9-9e36-64002cf8ed97.jpeg

They’re fairly even keeled but they do still have all the failings of other main stream media. If 1 is left and ten is right (under US focused understanding) I’d probably say they’re a 3.5-4.5.

Not talking about any local affiliates. IMO local affiliates tend to be better than national.

taiyang ,

I’m not even sure what national ABC is; as far as I’ve ever seen its local affiliates. Unless we’re just talking Disney which I guess is left leaning (that is, if acknowledging gay people existing is left leaning which honestly is kind of sad).

FireTower ,
@FireTower@lemmy.world avatar

W/ the national vs local I was speaking broadly about the major US news sources. Not just ABC. Even local Fox tends to be slightly less decisive.

taiyang ,

Fox affiliates aren’t so bad, ya. I grew up on Good Day LA and it was mostly daytime fluff pieces anyway.

takeda ,

At this point the GQP is so far to the right that everything is left leaning.

wischi ,

Compared to many countries in Europe even US “left” is pretty right.

luciferofastora ,

When we rhetorically ask “Is the US alright?”, that’s what we’re implying: “Is there any part of it actually left of our center?”

cogman ,

I have literally seen them call Fox News leftist because it will no longer air election denial bs.

Snowclone ,

It’s not at all. They are a huge corporation owned by other corporations, there’s no liberal mainstream media, there’s sensible center right news, and reactionary hard right news, there are ZERO leftists news stations. Because it costs a ton of money to be a news station and rich people aren’t even a little bit leftist.

machinin ,

Democracy Now! is pretty decent.

rhythmisaprancer ,
@rhythmisaprancer@moist.catsweat.com avatar

It isn't really a station, but Amy Goodman as a moderator would be pretty great.

taiyang ,

I think publically funded ones tend left, mostly because raw facts tend to have a left “bias”. Lol

I’ve had to resort to that or international news to get any sort of unsensationalized news, though.

Enkrod ,

DW is pretty good. They get called left leaning by Americans, but that’s just because leftist policies have a well known reality bias.

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cynthorpe ,

Obviously it needs to be outside in a field with a lot of tall buildings.

HootinNHollerin ,

Good faux ‘news’ is ultra biased

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