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fmstrat ,

This is how everyone should play it.

Won’t debate on ABC? "“Trump won’t debate on platform where he will be fact checked.”

Will debate on FOX? “Trump will only agree to debate on platform where he has historically not been fact checked.”

Snapz ,

What a weird, old coward…

*At the time, President Trump blamed the delay on audio problems. -Lemon told Axios, “There were audio problems, but they were resolved very quickly.” “The bigger problem was his threat not to take the stage when he had agreed to go on. He did not want to be fact-checked, but we could not let him on the stage without fact-checking,” Lemon said. Behind the scenes: The stalemate was so prolonged that NABJ leaders were prepared to explain to the audience of nearly 2,000 people why Trump would not appear. "I was prepared to go on stage to craft a statement, saying he decided not to go on stage because of fact-checking… we couldn’t compromise on that. As Lemon was preparing that statement, Trump walked onto the stage.

xmunk ,

He didn’t stall - he just had a senior moment. It’s completely fucking obvious he was intimidated by the journalists and just decided not to answer… actual stalling is slickly redirecting the conversation, he utterly failed to do that.

plz1 ,

Hah, he spent like 5 minutes on stage railing about them “being 35 minutes late”. I assumed it ws him being late, but glad to see that backed up by reasons (his lack of faculty to tell the truth).

Drusas ,

That journalist interviewing him should have called him out on that on the spot.

plz1 ,

Agreed. The kid gloves need to come off.

Coelacanth ,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

Not only does this make sense, it was also corroborated by NBC Chicago and the deputy editor from HuffPost:

https://feddit.nu/pictrs/image/bd11c083-0826-4086-b770-47201397ffac.jpeg

Today ,

Give him the rope…

Raiderkev ,

And I’m sure this was the actual reason for the delay, not the host’s equipment failure that Trump was rambling on about.

uberdroog ,
@uberdroog@lemmy.world avatar

And then immediately complained that he was made to wait. What a weird rube.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

“[Trump’s team] said, ‘Well, can you not fact check? He’s not going to take the stage if you fact-check,’” Lemon said.

Amazing.

“Can’t you just let him go out there and lie to everyone? Come on, aren’t you negroes team players?”

solsangraal ,

you know it’s a cult when the leader says “i’m not going to speak unless i can lie with impunity” and people STILL support him

HaleHirsute ,

Can you not even use that word in a parody joke line please.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Well I couldn’t very well use the word they would have actually used, so I went for the closest equivalent.

HaleHirsute ,

It would still be better to avoid that one too. I hate to sound like some racism monitor but it’s really hurtful to see it.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I am not going to let these racists get away with being racist. They’re racist all the time when the cameras are off. They absolutely use both words to talk about black people, even to their faces. And then Trump goes out there and just says a bunch of racist shit.

Nope, I call it as I see it. I censored myself if anything.

HaleHirsute ,

But… it’s hurtful for you to use that word when it really isn’t necessary to do so, even if it’s in a joke.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

If you can’t handle me using that word to criticize their racism, you’re really not going to be happy with the language used if Trump gets back into office. Because it won’t be that nice.

HaleHirsute ,

It’s hurtful to me to see it, but I can see you don’t care about hurting anyone’s feelings, as long as you can make a post that gets attention.

Drusas , (edited )

What a bunch of disingenuous garbage.

Disagreeing with you about one word doesn't mean that person suddenly doesn't care about anybody's feelings on any topic. Get a grip.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Again, if it’s so hurtful for you to see that you’re this upset about it, you’re not going to be able to handle a second Trump administration. You’re not even going to be able to handle the ugliness that will happen between now and November.

Because Republicans will be using much more hateful words and, unlike me, they mean it when they use them. Do you think they aren’t already using the actual N-word all the time? Trump himself has been known to say it. A lot.

thedailybeast.com/fred-c-trump-iii-says-donald-tr…

So you better get your rock ready. You’re going to need to live under it.

HaleHirsute ,

You know nothing about me, and about what I can handle.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You clearly can’t handle someone using the word ‘negro’ on Lemmy when they’re suggesting it’s something racists say. So yeah, I think I know enough about you to say that you won’t be able to handle it if someone actually uses it in a racist way if you can’t handle this.

HaleHirsute ,

I can handle it. I just don’t like it. And it’s not about the Republicans, my comment has nothing to do with them, it was about you. You’re the one that used the racial epithet. You.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yes. I can see. You can handle it so well you’ve been getting upset about it for over a day now.

Because it’s hurtful.

Unlike, apparently, when the actual racists are saying it.

HaleHirsute ,

But the racists you’re speaking of aren’t using it in public. Name one instance of an elected Republican using it in public in the past year. You can’t because they don’t. Do you know why they don’t? Because they know it’s offensive, hurtful, and they’ll get blowback for it.

But you did use the racial epithet, very unnecessarily, your point and joke could have been made without it.

You’re pointing your finger at racists because you say they’re using racial slurs privately. But you used it publicly. You did.

That’s why I called it out, you used a racial slur publicly, unnecessarily, that would be hurtful to people, and you’re proud of it and defend it. It’s not about what Republicans do, it’s about what you do.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

But the racists you’re speaking of aren’t using it in public.

Yet. Which is my point.

Because they know it’s offensive, hurtful, and they’ll get blowback for it.

But you can’t handle it when someone who isn’t trying to be offensive said it.

That’s why I called it out

And then you continued to talk about how much it hurt you. Repeatedly. And then claimed I didn’t care about anyone’s feelings because I didn’t care if a word that people use in much ways hurt you when I used it.

By the way, you have no idea what my skin color is. I wonder if that would matter?

HaleHirsute ,

I didn’t say it hurt me, I said it was hurtful.

Regarding your race I don’t recall, but from memory I know you’re poor, sick, live in a Midwestern town or similar (I could check the Domino’s receipt stub and get a lot more info) enough family names and other trivia I could probably doxx you in an hour but I won’t bother.

Just this gem though, can’t you see the irony of you telling someone else not to make racist jokes when that’s exactly what you did?

You make all the jokes you want. Just not ones which disparage people with disabilities, are bigoted, racist, etc.

This isn’t a comedy club in the 90s. We don’t need your “edgy” humor.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

If it didn’t hurt you, how do you know it hurt anyone else? Why do you speak for them.

And I didn’t make a racist joke, I made a joke about racists. It’s amazing you can’t tell what the difference is. You better never listen to a Richard Pryor routine.

drdiddlybadger ,
@drdiddlybadger@pawb.social avatar

Its fine in this context.

Daxtron2 ,

If you genuinely can’t tell that he was using it to mock racists idk what to tell you

Nougat ,

Yes, that is the GOP candidate for President: a guy who doesn’t want to talk to you if you’re going to research whether what he says is true or not.

worldwidewave ,

What a weak man. Donnie needs his own little safe space to make sure he doesn’t have to deal with actual reality.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

And a weird man. He’s just weird. Many people are saying so.

ThinkBeforeYouPost ,

That is downright bizarre!

“Between the lines: In the aftermath, members remain divided on whether it was right for NABJ to extend the invitation and give a platform to Trump. Some said it was embarrassing; others praised the interviewers for their tough questioning.

Brittany Cummings, a communications professional, was among the members who didn’t think the organization should have extended the invitation to Trump. “I’m not sure that any group of journalists has the ‘secret sauce’ to make him tell the truth and speak as a normal candidate would,” she said. “He’s not a normal candidate, so we can’t treat him as such.” “During the actual discussion, he was disrespectful, and I don’t think there was anything new to learn.””

Samvega ,

That is downright bizarre!

Almost as if Trumpublicans are weird. I mean, everyone is saying it.

Coelacanth ,
@Coelacanth@feddit.nu avatar

…others praised the interviewers for their tough questioning.

I actually think they more or less missed an open goal here, to be honest. Sure, the overall appearance was probably a net negative for Trump, but it could have been way worse. They got him off balance from the start, but afterwards failed to push back when he started walking all over them in his responses.

It’s clear neither of the hosts could handle either holding him to his statements based on facts, or pushing back against his loudness and personal attacks. They let him control the narrative way too much with stuff like “millions and millions of illegal immigrants swarming in from insane asylums” going unchecked and loud “nasty woman” rants bulldozing over the hosts.

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