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AceFuzzLord ,

I hope one day if I ever end up in an HOA that I end up in one where the HOA members all live in it as well. I would take extra care to heavily salinate everyone’s yards. Full scorched Earth for everyone!

BodePlotHole ,

Fucking Summit County. Yuppie hive of scum and villainy

Kanzar ,

Are there not regulations about food and beverage businesses in the States? Would have thought the litigious USA would have been all “hurr durr these children may not have washed their hands adequately when squeezing those lemons, so someone could get sick, and they don’t have a safe food handling certificate!”

hydroxycotton ,

There probably are local regulations that make this technically illegal but these aren’t generally enforced on such high profile operations like a neighborhood lemonade stand run by a 10 year old.

hperrin ,

I’m guessing the cops came and shot the kids’ dog.

WhyFlip ,

Bootlicker.

Feathercrown ,

Why do some people just wake up in the morning and go “I hate fun. Time to go be a villain in a Disney Channel show today!”

henfredemars ,

Authorities say that HOA members first summoned police due to reports of “children running an illegal lemonade stand on county right of way.”

When the sheriff’s deputies arrived, they “found that the children were not blocking the roadway but did ask them to move back from the road a few feet for their safety.”

Thinking the matter was resolved, the officers then moved on to other calls about parking issues in the area, only to head back to the scene of the stand when the “original reporting parties came out and began yelling at the children claiming they were on private property.”

As the refreshment row reached fever pitch, the officers discovered that the children running the stand themselves lived within the HOA and that the lemonade pushers “had a right to be there” on the association’s communally held property, leaving the wayward youths to continue their street war against scurvy.

Assholes.

NegativeInf ,

Run for your local HOA to dismantle and disband it if you have one. Make it your platform and every person who’s ever gotten a petty ticket from a nosy nobody will vote for you.

henfredemars ,

In this area there’s a HOA but most of the people who live here are renters and don’t get a say. This leads to strange regulations that are sometimes impossible to follow.

SirEDCaLot ,

This right here is the answer. HOAs usually have fairly complicated rules, but they’re absolutely are and are required to be bylaws that dictate the operation of the HOA, how board members are elected, what responsibility is the HOA has to the residents, etc. A big part of why HOAs get out of control is because the only people who bother to serve on their boards are the busybodies you least want in charge of your HOA. So simple solution, run and get yourself and your friends elected. Then then when you have power over the HOA, push through a bylaw amendment that significantly restricts the HOA’s authority and makes it very difficult to get it back. IE, The HOA may not create any new rule or regulation or penalty governing what people do on their private property without an in-person vote at a meeting where at least 90% of the residents personally show up and vote yes, however the president or board may remove any such regulations or penalties at will.

Or if you have support, just push through a charter amendment that says the HOA ceases to exist on some specific date and releases all CC&Rs for all governed properties.

Track_Shovel ,

This right here.

Figure out how to get elected. Get elected under the 'if you don’t like the way the HOA is run, vote for me, my friend, and their friend!’ platform, and then change the fucking rulebook to your liking.

buttfarts ,

I’m on my local strata council and from the earliest meetings discovered my nemesis who is there for exactly the opposite purpose of me. I want a permissive atmosphere that doesn’t look for trouble and only responds to actual problems instead of nitpicking to create unnecessary trouble.

My nemesis, on the other hand, is somebody who I believe can only get an erection by covertly causing another human being frustration and torment. By getting myself on council he cannot get rid of me nor can he use his power to abuse me. I have a small but dedicated power base that hates this guy and they all give me their proxy votes at the AGM specifically because I am supposed to sit on him and keep him down as much as possible. If I ever move than someone else will need to take over the job of sitting on him so he doesn’t think he has power.

RedditWanderer ,

Losers whose entire identity is defined by the tiny amount of power they have.

henfredemars ,

IRL trolls. Human scum with nothing better to do but shit on others.

Like, get a life.

SpaceNoodle ,

They should have arrested the adults for harassing the children - could be considered assault under the right conditions.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

AHOAAB

AbidanYre ,

There’s a Moby Dick/white whale joke in there somewhere but I’m not clever enough to make it.

Track_Shovel ,

street war against scurvy

I can just hear the guy laughing his ass off while writing this story about the most petty individuals on the face of the fucking planet.

Honestly, if some dick cheese were harassing my kids about their lemonade stand, they would be unwittingly be subscribing to a life time supply of a burning paper bag full of dog shit on their doorstep.

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andyburke ,
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Can we ban HOAs? You never see a good story about them posted. At best it seems like they lead to boring cookie cutter neighborhoods.

ArbitraryValue ,

Many people choose to live in neighborhoods with an HOA and I don’t see why they should be forbidden to do that. “I know what’s good for you better than you do” ought to require a high burden of proof.

henfredemars ,

I still have compassion for those who live a HOA and then go on to complain because choosing to live there is a complex decision involving many factors. In some parts of the country, there might be no options to practically avoid a HOA.

“I know what’s good for you” is precisely the ethos of the HOA. I’d have less compassion if housing wasn’t such a tight commodity. In that case, it’s a choice. But I think in the current market it doesn’t always feel like one.

I don’t think an outright ban is the right answer either.

ShepherdPie ,

All fine and dandy until HOAs are all that’s available and you’re paying $100s per month to one of the handful of major developers in the country that built the neighborhood and coincidentally still controls the HOA. Ever been to Florida?

GBU_28 ,

Fuck no, who would willingly go there? Being born there, stuck there, I get it. But traveling/vacationing? My God

AbidanYre ,

I know what’s good for you better than you do

Isn’t that kind of the definition of what an HOA does?

ArbitraryValue ,

Not necessarily. I know a guy who lives in a rural area and still somehow managed to find a house with an HOA, because he wanted access to shared amenities. Beyond that, HOA rules would ideally be like an agreement that I won’t be a bad neighbor to you if you won’t be a bad neighbor to me. It does seem like HOA boards attract petty people, but only the very worst will get in the news while the normal ones quietly do their thing.

(Also, it appears that the lemonade stand in the article wasn’t actually violating the HOA rules.)

GBU_28 ,

Technically an HOA is grassroots community derived governance to establish and maintain shared interests related to the neighborhood.

Evotech ,

This, also You only hear about bad HOAs

henfredemars ,

Problem is they do serve a purpose. Good for home values (in theory). Bad if you actually want to live in your home.

ShepherdPie ,

I’ve actually seen that HOAs fared the worst after stuff like the 2007 crash and took much longer to rebound versus non-HOA properties.

I’ll never understand how banning shit like pickup trucks in driveways has any effect on property values. It’s not like they’re permanent fixtures that persist from one owner to the next.

halcyoncmdr ,
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It’s a mistaken belief that cookie cutter housing is something people actually want as opposed to being something forced upon them since that’s all that’s built nowadays.

Can’t be cookie cutter if you can see differences in the front yard.

SeaJ ,

Every time I see a good deal on a house, I notice it is in an HOA. It turns out that people calculate the HOA fee into what they can afford so houses in HOAs have to go for less than a comparable one without one.

CluelessLemmyng ,

I have. I’ve lived in HOAs where utilities, gardening/lawn care, parking lot upkeep, trash/recycling, community center, were taken care of by the HOA.

You only hear about bad HOAs because people in those HOAs only care about property values from aesthetics. In reality, a good HOA is like a properly run union - taking care of its members by providing cheaper, common services via collective bargaining.

SeaJ ,

I’ve lived in HOAs where utilities, gardening/lawn care, parking lot upkeep, trash/recycling, community center, were taken care of by the HOA.

Aside from gardening, isn’t those all things a city would be taking care of?

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QuincyPeck ,

Article summary bot was much better.

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