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shalafi ,

And this is why I have a Colt .45 on my desk and a S&W .380 on my nightstand.

If you think someone is in your home? It’s too late to call the cops, and it’s an especially bad idea if you’re not white and at least middle class.

Outside the home? Absolutely call the cops, but be prepared if the situation escalates.

brbposting ,

And this is why I have a Colt .45 on my desk and a S&W .380 on my nightstand.

Hopefully not so you can kill a family member! (Was that a myth?)

ColeSloth ,

This woman was in no condition to use a gun. I don’t know if she had a health/mental issue, or if she was high as hell, but she was nowhere around coherent. That ex cop deserves everything he’s about to get. They should have requested EMS 60 seconds in to speaking with her.

ColeSloth ,

Here y’all go.

youtu.be/U2rMB2fYjuY?si=DNg6tUIpMocuAzZJ

Kalothar ,

Sean Grayson - Killed a woman who was cowering in fear after threatening him, he told her he would shoot her and then he did while she had her hands up saying “I’m sorry”

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/92bbf96d-eb10-46fb-a773-96d35e9bd9c5.jpeg

brbposting ,

She threatened him with boiling water… so he got closer to her?

Smokeless7048 ,

Truly disgusting. Hopefully Grayson remains behind bars for a life sentence, but that wont bring anyone back.

Suavevillain ,
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That footage is terrible. I’m tired of Police as a collective being rewarded with funding increases for their racism and bloodlust. RIP Sonya.

sunzu ,

Authorities have released shocking video that shows a white police officer in Illinois shooting a Black woman – who called police in fear of a home intruder – in the face, killing her.

"scared for muhh life" trick don't appear to work anymore?

these body cameras really making policing a hard job...

NineMileTower ,

Grayson has been arrested and charged with three counts of first-degree murder and is being held without bond until his trial is set to begin

Holy shit, is this real life? Consequences?!

Samvega ,

“Consequences for my actions? But that’s for poor people, like menial jobs and cholera!”

sunzu ,

wtf... did my time line just switched? cop did a crime and it was taken seriously?

orbitz ,

I noticed another comment that mentioned he had been working for a few departments over the years, so probably he just did too much finally. Mean don’t get me wrong I’m happy an officer is being charged for crimes committed but I’m guessing there’re reasons he has a longer work history and probably shouldn’t have been hired multiple times in the past. Again this was off a comment so maybe the information isn’t accurate but when it’s so easy to believe is a pretty bad situation of police officers in general.

sunzu ,

thanks for sharing, to my skeptical ass that makes way more sense, ie bosses knew what they need to do for CYA, no union gonna do shit about it.

I guess it is still a small win, but a big L, this woman is dead. That is not good enough!

Lupus ,

He had been hired by Sangamon county despite two charges of driving under the influence, the Springfield State Journal-Register reported, and had worked for other law enforcement agencies in Illinois for seven years before arriving in Springfield.

From the linked article

PriorityMotif ,
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I’d like to know which departments he worked at before.

HomerianSymphony ,

Let’s wait to see if he’s convicted.

mozz ,
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Most police in the modern day receive consequences.

Up until about 2010 it was almost never, with exceptional exceptions when something obscenely over the top happened. After that it was hit or miss, until 2020 happened and body cams were universal and ever since then it was pretty much decided. Since then it’s been pretty much all consequences all the time except in insanely Deep South departments that haven’t gotten up to speed with the times or something. And even then, usually some larger agency will step in, and consequences.

The rhetoric on the left hasn’t changed, and still assumes every cop is the enemy at all times and nobody gets any credit for the change in culture in policing to the point that the frontline police are probably the least of the problems in our still pretty overall unjust “justice” system, which kind of pisses me off tbh.

ShepherdPie ,

This is pretty out of touch as someone who sees new bodycam videos daily of cops violating people’s civil rights and who has had run ins with crooked cops. In places like Portland and Seattle, the police departments have been under federal consent decrees due to a pattern of violating constitutional rights. This isn’t relegated to the deep south and is actually quite common in the more “liberal” cities of the country (CO police have had numerous issues lately). We’re just a couple years out from George Floyd and things have barely changed.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

someone who sees new bodycam videos daily of cops violating people's civil rights

That doesn’t mean anything though. You can find new body cam videos daily of cops bending over backwards to try to protect people’s rights. Neither of it means anything. It could be happening 1% of the time, or 50%, or 99%, and there would still be daily videos showing one or the other. The US is a big place; there are literally millions of new bodycam videos being produced every single day.

I actually don’t know what the number is - I have kind of my perception that it’s rare but that’s not based on too much hard data tbh. Do you know anything in terms of how quantitatively common it is?

Actually maybe a more basic question - can you send me a couple of these videos from this week? You and I may have different definitions of violating people’s civil rights.

and who has had run ins with crooked cops

I mean I am biased because in my area the cops are super professional; I’ve seen them in more than one heated dispute with someone and never seen them be anything but cool about it. But like I say I think the real question is how quantitatively common it is.

In places like Portland and Seattle, the police departments have been under federal consent decrees due to a pattern of violating constitutional rights.

Can you tell me more / link to a story? I would want to know more about it.

We're just a couple years out from George Floyd

4 years

The big shift that I saw was after 2020 with George Floyd and the other big instances that year and the massive shitstorm that ensued. Honestly, that stuff makes a difference. Without the protest I think things would have stayed more or less in the sometimes-yes-sometimes-no land.

But like I say that’s all just my anecdotal perception. I actually think it would be good to bring something quantifiable to it.

proper ,
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You can find new body cam videos daily of cops bending over backwards to try to protect people’s rights

please link to one

shalafi ,

I’ve seen plenty where I thought I would beat some ass, and the cops are cool. You won’t find much of that because why would anyone post a routine police interaction?

Far be it for me to defend the pigs, I loathe them.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Sure, here’s one from Audit the Audit. I like that channel because it is more or less unique in taking neither the “pro police” or “anti police” viewpoint and just kind of taking things as they come and judging everyone involved in the interaction according to their behavior. Sometimes the cops are the good guys and sometimes they are the bad guys in it but it’s not like predisposed to one outcome or the other being always the answer, which it seems like is how almost every other person in the debate looks at it.

TheReturnOfPEB ,

1,166 people have been shot and killed by police in the past 12 months

Yes it must be the Left’s fault for your feelings.

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