Rep. Adam Schiff calls on Biden to withdraw from the presidential race

JimmyBigSausage , 2 hours ago

Harris-Kinzinger ‘24

TropicalDingdong , 2 hours ago

Kinzinger

You just are not going to get any modern Republicans to cross the line. There is no point in catering or marketing to them. The same is true with Democrats. Both parties “identifies as” bases are immobile.

JimmyBigSausage , 1 hour ago

Not really thinking that either. I like him as a switch to Dem. He was a winner on 1/6 committee. Plus he is so damn cute. Sorry. I digress. But so is everyone at this point.

givesomefucks , 4 hours ago

I can’t wait to hear about how Adam Schiff is now a trumpet…

It seems like the only people left explicitly supporting Biden, are the people Biden has appointed to run the DNC…

And I’m sure it’s a total coincidence that if a Dem besides Biden wins, they’d get to replace the DNC chair and all the other seat Biden got to appoint in 2020…

But if Biden runs and loses they maintain control of the party again for next election.

TropicalDingdong , 3 hours ago

But if Biden runs and loses they maintain control of the party again for next election.

(…) for next election.

Oh boy have they got a lesson coming.

PugJesus , 4 hours ago

This is insane pressure on Biden to step down. I hope it gets through to him. I dread to think of what happens with such division in the party going into the nomination process.

return2ozma OP , 4 hours ago

How long until Blue MAGA starts calling Schiff a Russian bot? /s

JimmyBigSausage , 4 hours ago

I would not call it “insane” pressure.

PugJesus , 4 hours ago

Prominent sitting congressmembers publicly asking for the presumptive nominee and incumbent president to step down is… very outside of the norm. It is an incredible and unprecedented pressure.

TropicalDingdong , 3 hours ago

sitting congressmembers publicly asking for the presumptive nominee and incumbent president to step down

Not enough hyperbole dude. I don’t have time to do the research, but its not clear to me that a situation where the incumbent president and presumptive nominee is being asked to step down by effectively ALL of the rest of party leadership, with only the fringe block (progressives) maintaining support.

I think i can recall a vaguely similar situation with maybe Grover Cleveland and the mugwumps? And iirc that was all about currency (gold vs silver vs fiat vs a historical aside: land based currency; worth reading on)…

xmunk , 3 hours ago

The norm sucks. The fucking norm got us into this mess by discouraging people from primarying a sitting president. If we’d had a robust primary we’d either be fully on board with Biden or we’d have dropped him already.

Fuck norm. He was like the worst character on Cheers.

TropicalDingdong , 3 hours ago

Fuck norm.

Thems fighting words

www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3LMSflEN54

xmunk , 3 hours ago

Ha, I wanted a Cheers reference and so I dropped that one but it also did cause me pain. Norm is exceedingly chill.

JimmyBigSausage , 3 hours ago

Insane pressure to me would be party leaders of House and Senate, former Presidents of the same party, united cabinet members or close family members simultaneously saying it is time to go. ☎️ My call is that Obama will have to be the bad guy on this one though.☎️

TropicalDingdong , 3 hours ago

Obama has called. Pelosi has called. Schiff has called. How far you gonna pedal these goal posts?

JimmyBigSausage , 3 hours ago

I don’t think Obama has showed up yet to walk him out of the room holding his hand. That is what I am talking about.

TropicalDingdong , 3 hours ago

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/72bc8491-f0de-482d-83ea-a60adb5c4bba.gif

TropicalDingdong , 4 hours ago

idk if you’ve been following the Republican convention, but needless to say, they appear to be very…

“energized”

The democrats need a massive shot in the arm to even have a shot at this point, replacing Biden or naught. The assassination attempt provided a kind of rallying cry for MAGA/ Trumpers that polling won’t capture. Polling is good at capturing the distribution of demographics, but what it misses is how “activated” those demographics are. And boy-howdy, do Trumps key demographics seem activated. Possibly the most activated they’ve ever been, maybe even more-so than post 2020/J6.

If things don’t change massively, and even then, its a super difficult path for Democrats to come back from the situation that Blue MAGA has set up.

Maybe the AOC/ Bernie triangulation is setting up for throwing AOC onto the platform?

Harris/ AOC and the entire platform is: Women liberty and freedom of choice is our focus. If you elect us, our entire focus will be a constitutional amendment supporting a woman’s right to choose. Harris can activate the African American community. Women & the African American community to get NC & GA (maybe?). Let Harris or AOC put out better rhetoric on Gaza and WI/ MI/ MN can be back in play?

Like they’ve got to activate a/ any demographic and make this campaign about SOMETHING, because right now, it looks like the Democrats are stumbling into something similar to this:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/13fd4b22-4969-4b4d-883a-15ee42519002.png

return2ozma OP , 4 hours ago

All of this!

sunzu , 3 hours ago

Harris can activate the African American community.

Lolwat

TropicalDingdong , 2 hours ago

There have been some signficant and I think legitimate concerns that if any one but Harris replaces Biden, African Americans, specificially African American women will see this her VP pick as having been purely performative, when its widely acknowledged that Africian American women, specifically, helped deliver Biden the white house.

I think its a legitimate concern and I have no problem with Harris as candidate. Literally any one has a better shot than Joe Biden at this point. Editorially, I think a double woman progressive ticket could be the thing that gets the car back on the road, but I truly do not give a shit. I don’t care if its Andy Beshear. Anyone and everyone would be doing better than Joe Biden is currently.