Texas woman arrested for allegedly attempting to drown 3-year-old Palestinian Muslim child in possible hate crime

tover153 , 6 days ago

She actually needs the DA to add those hate crimes to the charges so that Abbott can pardon her later, just attempted capital murder and injury to a child aren’t going to cut it with him.

Illegalmexicant , 6 days ago

Wow. Made it 42 years and thought “I need to murder a child”

halcyoncmdr , 6 days ago (edited 6 days ago)

To be fair, it was a toddler.

/s in case that wasn’t obvious.

Also, “possible hate crime”? It clearly was. Getting really tired of these bullshit headlines that don’t actually say what happened. The “alleged” for the crime since they haven’t been convicted is already in the headline, that’s fine, I get he legal distinction there, but then say what’s actually alleged and don’t try to hide the reality of what’s alleged. This is clearly a hate crime, there’s no question of that. It’s not an alleged possible hate crime, it’s just an alleged hate crime.

According to a press release from the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the mother appeared to be visibly Muslim, as she was wearing a hijab and modest swimwear to the pool at the time of the incident.

Police said Wolf also asked the mother if two of the children in the pool were hers before allegedly attempting to grab one of them, a 6-year-old boy, who was able to get away.

Wolf also allegedly snatched the mother’s headscarf off while she tried to save her daughter and beat her with it, according to CAIR.

DragonTypeWyvern , 6 days ago

Wow, nothing deniable about that at all

FlowVoid , 6 days ago (edited 6 days ago)

She was charged with attempted capital murder and injury to a child. … The Euless Police Department has recommended that the incident be considered a hate crime and the Tarrant County District Attorney’s Office is currently investigating it

“Alleged” is what the DA has charged.

“Possible” is what the DA might add to the charges.

The opinions of the reporter, who is not a lawyer much less a prosecutor, are not helpful.

halcyoncmdr , 6 days ago

“Possible” is what the DA might add to the charges.

If the DA hasn’t added that already based on even this limited public information, I question their ability to do their damned job. There’s nothing “possible” about this being racially motivated, which clearly makes it a hate crime. The initial charges should have been for a hate crime and adjusted to remove that if necessary.

But it’s Texas, they don’t want to prosecute white people for being racist against anyone brown, that sets a precedent with the public they don’t want.

FlowVoid , 6 days ago

If the DA hasn’t added that already based on even this limited public information

The DA also has access to non-public information, including potential exculpatory evidence.

halcyoncmdr , 6 days ago

Can’t imagine what sort of exculpatory evidence there could be for someone asking where someone is from, then trying to drown their child, and beating them with their hijab. There is a pretty damned cut and dry racial motive there. Unless the white woman was secretly Muslim somehow it seems pretty straightforward.

Or… the simplest explanation is that it’s a smaller suburb of Dallas-Ft Worth where the largest ethnic group by far is white, in a district that went 62.2% Republican in the 2022 election, and the government officials don’t want to publicly denounce racism like that because that’s what the citizens in that area expect of their government.

FlowVoid , 6 days ago (edited 6 days ago)

Can’t imagine what sort of exculpatory evidence there could be

Not being able to imagine something doesn’t mean it can’t exist.

the simplest explanation is that it’s a smaller suburb of Dallas-Ft Worth

Suburbs don’t prosecute, the county DA does. This county voted for Biden in 2020, and it prosecuted 42 hate crimes in 2022.

halcyoncmdr , 6 days ago

Suburbs don’t prosecute, the county DA does. And this county voted for Biden in 2020.

You’re right, and Presidential elections don’t do a good job of showing anything about local matters. Gotta look at the local elections. Since you brought it up…

In the 2022 general election the County Clerk, Criminal District Attorney, Constable, District Clerk, and County Judge elected were all Republican. In fact, the only race not won by a Republican was one of 2 open County Commissioner seats, which a Dem barely won with 51.5% of the vote.

Notice that Criminal District Attorney, Phil Sorrells ®, was just elected in 2022. Prior to that, he was a Judge for Tarrant County Criminal Court Number 10 for 25 years. I’d be willing to bet if someone went back through his criminal sentencing over those 25 years it would show certain, shall we say, biases in those sentences, they almost always do. Sometimes that quack does come from a duck after all.

FlowVoid , 6 days ago

The previous DA was also a Republican, so it’s clear that Republicans are capable of prosecuting hate crimes.

And I’d be willing to bet that Tarrant County charged as many hate crimes in 2023 as in previous years.

halcyoncmdr , 6 days ago

I never said they weren’t capable. I’m just saying that this prosecutor seems to be choosing to not prosecute something seemingly obvious, which just makes them look incompetent. If they want to appear that way to the public, that’s their choice.

Nothing prevents them from saying that they aren’t going to prosecute it as a hate crime due to exculpatory evidence, instead they seem to be intentionally leaving it in a grey area. Especially since this apparently happened a month ago according to the article. Plenty of time to figure out something so core to the issue. It just makes them look complicit in allowing hate crimes when the public evidence is so glaringly obvious for it.

FlowVoid , 6 days ago (edited 6 days ago)

Nothing prevents them from saying that they aren’t going to prosecute it as a hate crime

The thing that prevents them from saying that they aren’t going to prosecute it is that they are still considering prosecuting it.

Deciding on a charging strategy takes a lot more thought than posting a hot take.

EDIT: And let’s not forget that she is most definitely being charged with attempted murder, so no matter what the DA decides she’s gonna have a bad time.

pearsaltchocolatebar , 6 days ago

It’s a CYA thing.

Confused_Emus , 6 days ago

Publishers have to use the walking on eggshells language even when it’s obvious what happened because of libel laws. You’re not guilty until convicted in a court of law. Until that point, everything is allegedly, possibly, appears to be.

halcyoncmdr , 6 days ago

I know. I already addressed that. That’s not where my issue is. My issue is they’re not only saying allegedly but also a possible hate crime when it is clearly a hate crime.

Instead after looking more, it looks like that’s because the DA has unofficially chosen not to prosecute it as a hate crime for whatever baffling reason. A month after the event and they’ve not filed charges for a hate crime. It doesn’t take a month to figure out whether a white person fighting with a Muslim in a headscarf about being American, then attacking their children and beating them with the scarf, constitutes a hate crime.

So instead it makes it look like a prosecutor that doesn’t want to prosecute a seemingly slam dunk hate crime as a hate crime, for whatever reason.

Aceticon , 6 days ago

In that kind of mindset, it’s not “child”, it’s “human animal”.