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FlashMobOfOne ,
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White Nationalists Nazis.

Just because they tried rebranding doesn’t mean we have to adopt their sanitized terminology.

GlitzyArmrest ,
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A bunch of chuds with weapons piled into U-Haul is about American as it gets, lmao. Meal team six.

scmstr , (edited )

“Conspiracy to riot?”

From the sounds of it, it sounded more like domestic terrorism, politically and hate motivated conspiracy to riot and inciting riot, as well as a plan to physically assault a large amount of people as a militarized terrorist cell.

Conspiracy to riot? What in the fuck get out of terrorism white nationalist bullshit is this? The USA is fucking fubar.

Fpsfrank85 ,
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It’s not terrosim if your white.

jzzvid ,
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Literally this, actually. There is no such crime as “domestic terrorism.” It literally does not exist on the books. It’s an undefined term that has no statute attached to it.

That’s why you see so much stuff where white supremacists get charged with “conspiracy to riot” and such. It’s about creating double standards and propaganda through the law.

fubo ,

“Conspiracy to riot” is what the Yippies were charged with in Chicago '68, by the way.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Seven

shalafi ,

Often these disappointing charges have nothing to do with what makes sense. Prosecutors aim as high as they think they go. If they’re not aiming high enough, it’s because they don’t think they can win.

Also, when you dig past the headlines, and really see what came out in court, it’s often a FAR different story. One famous case, which escapes me, was a cop getting off for seemingly executing a black man on a traffic stop. Once the evidence and testimony were heard in court, well, it wasn’t what we all thought. Cop wasn’t justified BTW, but I can see why the jury voted not guilty.

Maybe this is such a case? They needed $X to hang them with terrorism, but $X wasn’t present or provable? And conspiracy to riot was a slam dunk?

So yeah, I’ll take a win against these dirt bags vs. a loss on a terrorism charge.

OTOH, there have been plenty of Americans convicted of terrorism on, seemingly, the thinnest of evidence. Prosecutors LOVE getting that terrorism conviction, looks good, so what’s up here?

I suspect it’s that American jurors won’t see “white” as “terrorist”, and that’s on us Americans, not the prosecutors. Pretty funny as, when I was a kid, it was the European terrorist factions that were prevalent. Baader-Meinhof Gang, Red Army Faction, IRA, all that.

HorseRabbit ,

Nazi scum

Umbra ,

Isn't this that group that has more feds than real members? And that was entrapped by feds to kidnap some politician but the whole case was dismissed because... entrapment

ForestOrca ,
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I'mma roll with No. Read the article they were convicted, which means that the case was NOT dismissed.

Umbra ,

Apologies, this was another group that I was thinking of

SplicedWren ,

And in the other case, two were acquited, two received a mistrial due to a deadlocked jury, and two pleas guilty to conspiracy.

gAlienLifeform ,
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And the two who received a mistrial were retried, found guilty, and both sentenced to over 15 years

e; and that was just the federal charges, there was a state level case that sent a bunch more to prison for a while too

SplicedWren ,

Thank you for elaborating. Definitely seems like the above poster was pretty off base.

Ensign_Crab ,

Oh cool. Which one?

Rom ,
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You’re probably thinking of the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot in Michigan, but that still got a whole bunch of convictions.

Ensign_Crab ,

Everyone who makes me look bad by agreeing with me in public is a fed.

ArugulaZ ,

Fuck these kill-billy freaks. Fuck them with rebar! In fact, re-fuck them with rebar!

NumbersCanBeFun ,
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    jerome ,
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    Bam!

    FlyingSquid ,
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    Idaho has a huge white nationalism problem and I doubt this made much of a dent.

    ptsdstillinmymind ,

    FTFY AMERICA the WORLD has a huge white nationalism problem.

    FlyingSquid ,
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    I agree, but Idaho has an especially big issue there. White nationalists are trying to make it a mini-ethnostate.

    Manifish_Destiny ,

    Idaho native here.

    They operate through a nonprofit here in order to lobby for hate. It is an exceptionally huge problem. There’s a dude not 40 minutes from the capitol city with a warrant for his arrest and a militia and the government is just letting him do what he wants.

    Eldritch ,

    Oregon and Idaho were specifically founded with racist ideologies in mind. Who saw a renewal in relevance and resurgence in the '70s and '80s.

    fubo ,

    Well, China doesn’t; although they do have a huge Han-supremacism problem.

    ArugulaZ ,

    Stick with potatoes, Idaho. At least those are delicious after you poke holes in them and put them in the microwave for eight minutes.

    Entropywins ,
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    Funnily enough that's how I like my white nationalists...

    MossyFeathers ,

    You know, something I’ve been wondering lately is how many 18650 batteries you’d need to boil water with a jerry-rigged magnetron and beam focuser if you’re 50ft~100ft away.

    Stan ,
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    Lol batteries. Megatron uses energon cubes.

    shalafi ,

    “someone reported seeing people loading into a U-Haul van like ‘a little army’ at a hotel parking lot in Coeur d’Alene”

    That’s all you need to know to see how safe these guys felt in their actions. It literally didn’t occur to them to maybe hide all that, just a bit? FFS, when I’m loading up to go shoot at my camp, I keep it on the downlow. And this is a hyper conservative area.

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