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sharkfucker420 ,
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Linkerbaan ,
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Why is Aljazeera copy pasting this propaganda? Israel blocked the UN from doing forensic investigations. They only allowed “witness” testimonies.

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Dasus ,
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Seems like this has been pushed a lot yeah.

Weirdly after this started spreading:

ohchr.org/…/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reporte…

“We are particularly distressed by reports that Palestinian women and girls in detention have also been subjected to multiple forms of sexual assault, such as being stripped naked and searched by male Israeli army officers. At least two female Palestinian detainees were reportedly raped while others were reportedly threatened with rape and sexual violence,” the experts said. They also noted that photos of female detainees in degrading circumstances were also reportedly taken by the Israeli army and uploaded online.

Linkerbaan ,
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That one is true. We have women that experienced that speaking out not "eyewitnesses*

Israel blocks the investigation of that too.

avidamoeba ,
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I don’t understand, why is this interesting? I thought most assumed this was the case. I can’t help but think that killing innocent people is the more significant crime committed by Hamas and Israel.

aleph ,
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It’s interesting primarily since there has been lot of controversy surrounding the claims that widespread rape and sexual assault were carried out by Hamas during the October 7th attacks, mostly due to an incendiary article that appeared in the NYT and was widely repeated across international media.

Since the release of that article, there has been quite a bit of pushback, even from certain journalists in the NYT itself, centred around the fact that the author of the article was a young Jewish filmmaker with ties to the Israeli military who was not even a professional journalist. (You can read more about the problems with that piece here.)

In any case, there has been a lot of back and forth over whether these stories of mass rape were credible, so this lastest UN investigation helps to clarity the extent to which sexual violence may have occured.

festus ,

I’ve seen a fair number of people on Lemmy claim that Hamas didn’t rape women or even kill civilians, that’s it all lies, etc.

Corkyskog ,

We just don’t have the facts, just like we don’t have the facts about claims of IDF rape. NPR did a really good article like a day or two ago about how unfortunately the evidence is gone now because they has to move so fast. And because the people doing the work aren’t trained in forensics, they were getting a bunch of false statements. There was one case where they said a woman was mutilated and raped, only to find out it was a bullet wound near the genitals.

I am going to guess there is raping happening, because that’s just what happens in the world, especially when war comes in play.

Rentlar ,

Good that this is being reported. Thorough documentation should be made on the horrible things both Hamas and Israel are doing to innocents in this conflict. The UN isn’t one sided or a Hamas-apologist like Israel might claim.

wildbus8979 ,

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When pressed about it by journalists she said this wasn’t an investigation.

sin_free_for_00_days ,

Hamas fucking sucks. And they walked away from the latest cease fire talks. Hamas does not give a liquid shit about the Palestinians. Their lack of shits given has to be up there with Israel’s. The first time I was old enough to sort of understand what was happening in the news was in 1982 when Lebanon and Israel got into it. It’s just such a weird area of religiously-driven genocidal goals for, it seems, every group against each other, but all of them against the infidel Jews. It’s insane.

Son_of_dad ,

Their leader is a 88 year old rich man who lives in the only palace in Palestine. He spends most of his time with his Saudi buddies in comfort, he literally could not give two shits about Palestine.

gedaliyah OP ,
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You’re thinking of Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of Fatah and president of the PA. His government’s also extremely corrupt but nothing on the scale of Hamas. In fact, they are despised by Hamas for their willingness to cooperate with Israel on certain matters.

His personal wealth is estimated somewhere around $100 million.

Keeping in mind that he is considered corrupt by his own people, and has more power on the world stage, more formal authority, and oversees a larger portion of the Palestinian population, his wealth is still a drop in the bucket compared to the leaders of Hamas.

Ismail Haniyeh is worth est. $4 billion. Khaled Mashal is worth est. $4 billion as well. Abu Marzuk is worth est. $3 billion. All three of them live outside Palestine. Say what you will about Abbas, at least he lives with his people.

If you’re wondering how three different leaders of one of the poorest regions of one of the poorest countries in the world managed to become multi billionaires, all while their people starved, then you’re asking very good questions.

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