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Many believe the founders wanted a Christian America. Some want the government to declare one now

The idea of a Christian America means different things to different people. Pollsters have found a wide circle of Americans who hold general God-and-country sentiments.

But within that is a smaller, hardcore group who also check other boxes in surveys — such as that the U.S. Constitution was inspired by God and that the federal government should declare the U.S. a Christian nation, advocate Christian values or stop enforcing the separation of church and state.

For those embracing that package of beliefs, it’s more likely they’ll have unfavorable views toward immigrants, dismiss or downplay the impact of anti-Black discrimination and believe Trump was a good or great president, according to a 2021 Pew Research Center survey.

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    Tyfud ,

    Only the cherry picked teachings you mean. Not the whole, you know, Bible.

    Cuttlefish1111 , (edited )

    Care for the sick and poor, sure, but this is being orchestrated by billionaires who want to reinstate slavery. No law will be made with respect to religion, if they want to take that out the constitution so goes guns. This article is disgusting and should be removed.

    Renfrew ,

    Donald Trump and his g̵o̵o̵n̵s̵ ̵loons stechschritting toward Gilead. smh

    SpiceDealer ,
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    Say no to theocracy!

    unreasonabro ,

    meanwhile the white people who aren’t retarded are all facepalming and going “look around, you stupid fuck”. It’s been an overtly christian nation for fucking ever now and that you don’t have your sharia law equivalent here is a testament to the structure imposed by the founding fathers, and not the diarrhea you’ve covered it in. I wonder if they realize there are liberals just about as ready to kill them as they are to kill us. Probably not, “realization” is a magic word to the see no evil crowd.

    asteriskeverything ,

    Please watch God Forbid the sex scandal that shocked America (hulu)

    Shiny happy people (prime)

    The family (netflix)

    Even if the “smaller hard-core group” sounds inconsequential, a lot of those people are the ones with power and/or influence.

    I think there is a fourth I’ve seen that covers similar grounds and forget atm, plus I’m sure many more that I don’t know so please respond if you know others. As you may notice all mine are drastically different subjects on the surface. They have the common thread though of fundamental religious men in power AND the institutions being involved in American politics.

    There’s no gay agenda. There is ABSOLUTELY a Christian agenda.

    pearsaltchocolatebar ,

    There is a gay agenda if you consider wanting to be treated like humans an agenda.

    asteriskeverything ,

    Oh shit… THAT is what they want? Fuck that’s deplorable

    BeautifulMind ,
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    Yeah these are the same folks arguing that if the authors of sec 3 of the 14th amendment wanted to specifically prevent a former president that engaged in insurrection they would have, so we can conclude they didn’t want that. So, if they had every opportunity to write religion into the constitution and didn’t do it, what now?

    Then when you notice that they specifically wrote in the first amendment the establishment clause- and then you realize that Jefferson explained its purpose to be creating a wall of separation between church and state, what now again?

    Soggy ,

    They don’t care about internally consistent logic. If they did they wouldn’t be religious.

    BigMacHole ,

    I’m a Republican and I need someone to shoot up an Elementary School QUICK so I can pretend to care about the Constitution again!

    SeaJ ,

    Many incorrectly believe the founders wanted a Christian America. AP should know better than to make it seem like that is an opinion.

    girlfreddy OP ,
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    Even if it seems to be the opinion of many right wingers and Republicans?

    GunValkyrie ,

    Facts cannot be opinion. No matter how hard you believe.

    pearsaltchocolatebar ,

    Yeah, the founding fathers weren’t exactly silent about the issue. There’s really no room for interpretation.

    tb_ ,
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    Given how many “interpret” the Bible, you bet they can “interpret” the Constitution as well…

    Flumpkin ,

    Why is apnews validating these lies? The constitution is very clear.

    girlfreddy OP ,
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    Attacking the messenger makes no sense at all.

    Flumpkin ,

    It’s the framing

    vala ,

    I agree.

    theodewere ,
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    i believe they're all heretics who should be burned, where's the Inquisition when you really need one

    DogPeePoo ,

    This article reads like Fox News click bait unsourced trash.

    “Some are saying…”

    “Many…”

    rebul ,

    Ridiculous article with ridiculous assertions. I don't know any Christians that desire a 'Christian America', and I live in the Bible Belt. The reason is because Christians understand that Christianity comes in many flavors; Baptists don't want Methodists making the rules, Catholics don't want Protestants in charge, etc. Article is simple inflammatory click bait.

    skydivekingair ,

    Just my experience but I know someone who is a lobbyist for a high profile brand and has said to me “the founders intended for this to be a Christian nation so making laws that reflect those values is okay” Not saying you are wrong but I have encountered at least one, and that one is in a very influential position.

    Shalakushka ,
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    Dominion Theology is damn near mainstream in the Republican Party. No one ever accused Christians of being logically consistent. All simply assume their bullshit interpretation will win out in the end because God.

    rebul ,

    Just because you have access to the internet doesn't mean you should post your dumbass opinion.

    girlfreddy OP ,
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    https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/a25bd3f9-90de-4954-ad0d-a8a9834f4cda.jpeg

    sailingbythelee ,

    New to the internet, I see. LOL.

    Alto ,
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    If you honestly think you don't know anyone who wants that, you've deluded yourself. It's not the majority, but they absolutely exist, and they've absolutely captured the republican party.

    rebul ,

    You're an idiot.

    Alto ,
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    I'm sorry that you're too blind to reality. I hope you eventually realize that and fix it.

    ghostdoggtv ,

    You should look up the southern strategy.

    PugJesus ,
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    You ever talk politics with many of the Christians you know?

    WorkIsSlow ,

    The article above, that you didn’t read, talks about the speaker of the house and surveyed Americans.

    asteriskeverything ,

    You sound like the white people who say racism doesn’t exist because they don’t see it.

    RotatingParts ,

    Many? No, not many, just a very loud minority.

    girlfreddy OP ,
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    Loud and powerful, with a shit ton of money behind them.

    Oh, and private jets. Lots of private jets.

    skydivekingair ,

    So every church and its earnings go to the State… And Social Welfare programs become more widespread… And housing the homeless is now law… Lying during your campaign is an immediate expulsion from public office…

    What else would make these fascists turn tail and reconsider?

    queermunist ,
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    For those embracing that package of beliefs, it’s more likely they’ll have unfavorable views toward immigrants, dismiss or downplay the impact of anti-Black discrimination and believe Trump was a good or great president, according to a 2021 Pew Research Center survey.

    Immigrants from Latin America are very likely to be Christian and so are Black Americans.

    “But we don’t want those kinds of Christians!”

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