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thepixelfox , (edited ) in Teachers in England will have to tell parents if children question their gender
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I love how people who aren't part of the community think they know what's best for the community. Fucking assholes, outing kids into what could be a potentially dangerous situation, depending on the parents views.

I'd love to out their deepest, most well kept secrets, see how they feel.

It's disgusting how all these 'protections' they put in place will do more harm than good. You can tell it's coming from an anti trans standpoint as they're trying to scare people into staying hidden.

Fuck the government.

SheeEttin ,

Don’t blame the government. Name the people making these decisions.

thepixelfox ,
@thepixelfox@kbin.social avatar

I blame them all. The idiots proposing this shit and the government agreeing it's a good idea. They're all morons.

SheeEttin ,

My point is that “the government” isn’t some black-box machine. The government is people. You can blame “the government” all you want, but it’s the people pulling the levers who deserve the blame. They should be named.

thepixelfox ,
@thepixelfox@kbin.social avatar

Did I disagree? No. I'm saying I blame them all. Learn to read.

MasterObee ,

The government is not the people.

They are meant to be public servants serving the tax payers.

MasterObee ,

Government employees shouldn’t be keeping secrets from the people they are meant to serve.

Gloomy ,

So you think a teacher serves only the parents and not the child?

MasterObee ,

They’re serving both by educating. They aren’t serving by keeping secrets from parents.

The government forces us to send our kids to government run education centers at the threat of taking them from us. The least they can do is tell us what’s going on those 6-8 hours a day we are forced to give them our kids.

thepixelfox ,
@thepixelfox@kbin.social avatar

No, I think things like this that can cause a potential dangerous situation shouldn't be told. Coming out about anything, sexually, gender identity etc is a personal choice. Taking that from someone is a form of control.

If a teacher tries any of this shit when my kiddo is in school, I'm gonna lose it with them. It's up to my child if and when they feel comfortable telling me those things, if they ever realise they aren't straight or aren't the gender they were born as. It's their right to choose to tell me this. Not someone else. Just because they're children, doesn't mean we have rights to know everything. Their privacy is important too. Children are people, not possessions. They deserve respect. We don't demand someone's boss tells their family if they find out this stuff. We don't demand higher education teachers of over 18s to do this either. Just because their minors does not mean were entitled to know their private thoughts and feelings. Unless a child has admitted to thoughts of suicide/ harming themselves or others, I don't believe we should be told.

If they think a child has behavioural issues that need looking into, fine. That's good information. But outing someone, no matter their age is wrong and potentially dangerous. Luckily there's parents out there who will be accepting if they get information like this. But unfortunately there's parents who won't be, and depending on what those parents are like, it could result in some seriously bad situations arising.

I know my own parent was less then impressed when she found out Im pansexual. And they tried the whole 'but kids' and 'its just a phase thing.' which isn't as bad as some people/ children would get. But being invalidated doesn't feel good, especially on something that isn't an opinion, but a fact. Being told you're wrong for your sexuality or gender identity can do a lot of damage to people.

This is stupid. It shouldn't be a thing. I'm sick of the 'but the children' bullshit the government keep pushing as a cover for wanting more control. No end to end encryption, because we want to protect the children. Our children, because we want to protect the children. Access to your private messages, the children.
It's all bullshit they use to get people on board because children are an easy pawn to use. The government's of the world need to stop using children in pawns of their stupid games and just be honest. But how likely are people to listen if they say 'we want more control' over 'we are trying to protect the children!'

I'll say it again. Fuck the government.

MasterObee ,

If a teacher tries any of this shit when my kiddo is in school, I’m gonna lose it with them. It’s up to my child if and when they feel comfortable telling me those things, if they ever realise they aren’t straight or aren’t the gender they were born as. It’s their right to choose to tell me this. Not someone else. Just because they’re children, doesn’t mean we have rights to know everything

If the kid is socially transitioning at school, I think that falls under behavior parents should know. Same if the kids are being shitheads in class or getting beat up at recess.

Ezra09 ,

There’s a gap between questioning and transitioning. Kids need people they feel safe talking to. Kids need to be able to ask questions about the world without feeling like they’ll be punished. You mentioned in other comments about programs to reduce abuse, but what about something as simple as:

Mr Teacher, I have questions about what it means to be a boy or girl. I don’t want to ask my parents because they get mad when the topic comes up on the news.

Well, little Timmy, you shouldn’t have told me that because I now need to legally tell your parents. Hope you’re ready to feel unloved just for asking a question, nerd.

MasterObee ,

There’s a gap between questioning and transitioning

If Jimmy is now going by Cindy, that’s a social cue of transitioning.

Kids need people they feel safe talking to. Kids need to be able to ask questions about the world without feeling like they’ll be punished. You mentioned in other comments about programs to reduce abuse, but what about something as simple as:

I agree they need people they feel safe talking to. Schools have counselors.

It shouldn’t be up to teachers to determine the morality of what the kids saying and whether they should share it with the parents or not.

Well, little Timmy, you shouldn’t have told me that because I now need to legally tell your parents. Hope you’re ready to feel unloved just for asking a question, nerd.

See? You have to be incredibly hyperbolic to even create a situation where it’d be bad for parents to discuss with parents about the children’s behavior.

If instead of a teacher, your kid starts going to church and has these secret meetings with pastors and priests, are you comfortable with that?

Ezra09 , (edited )

If Jimmy is now going by Cindy, that’s a social cue of transitioning.

You say I’m using hyperbole in the same comment as this. You do know it’s possible to question gender without changing your name, right?

I did use hyperbole to make my point, but only in how bluntly it would be said. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say there are shitty, but not abusive enough to lose their kids, parents out there, and I do think there are kids out there who would rather ask questions of other adults in their lives. I am making this argument about the edge cases, because I think the argument “this will only fuck over a small percentage of people” is a shit take. So is “teachers are government employees who should act as interchangable robots that kids can’t trust or confide in.”

MasterObee ,

You do know it’s possible to question gender without changing your name, right?

Yes, which is why I think it’s weird that you try to draw this line that encourages teachers to hide that from parents.

. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say there are shitty, but not abusive enough to lose their kids, parents out there,

And you think government employees should determine that simply because of their intuition? The movement from objectivity to subjectivity at the whim of the government is tragic.

I do think there are kids out there who would rather ask questions of other adults in their lives.

Therapists. Religious leaders. Aunts. Uncles.

Why does it have to be the teachers? The education system is a failure - our spending on schools tops the world. Literally 30% more per full time student than our peer countries. Our test scores are constantly at the bottom of those countries.

Then we’re being told that our schools are shitty because they’re underfunded. Then they tell us the students will do better if the teachers can teach them about gender and sexual ideologies at young ages, and have private conversations with the teachers.

Nah, dog. If our schools showed that they could teach our children math, english and science with the vast sums of money we keep throwing at them, maybe I’d buy it. But not with how shitty they’ve shown the education system is.

CmdrShepard ,

Weren’t you just talking about how you believe in small government and oppose authoritarianism in another post and yet here you are demanding that the government force educators to invade children’s privacy by spying on them and relaying their findings to parents?

MasterObee ,

demanding that the government force educators to invade children’s privacy by spying on them

Where did I say this? Please provide a quote of mine.

CmdrShepard ,

You really need me to link every single comment you’ve left on this post? Here you go

MasterObee ,

You just linked to my comments, show me the comment were I “demand that the government force educators to invade children’s privacy by spying on them”

I never had, nor never will say that, because I think teachers should stay out of their kids personal lives for the most part. I don’t want any teacher spying exchanging secrets with kids.

Th4tGuyII ,
@Th4tGuyII@kbin.social avatar

Tell you what, I've been back and forth with this person somewhere else in this thread, and it really astounds me how someone could be both small government and demand the right to use the strong arm of the government to allow parents to surviel their child via their own teachers.

Then they question you because you can't prove they said that directly, as though inferring such without saying it absolves them of any guilt. Might work in court, but that doesn't work here.

CmdrShepard ,

I just stopped replying to them entirely as their latest comments are completely unhinged antigovernment rants and conspiracy theories plus they began completely contradicting themselves from one reply to the next, drastically changing their supposed ‘ideals’ to whatever suited their argument in that particuler moment.

This person needs intensive cult deprogramming if they’re genuine or a better job than working in a troll farm if they’re not.

little_cow OP , in What the Freakout Over Trans Women Breastfeeding Is Really About

Lactation in Trans Women www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5779241/academic.oup.com/jcem/article/106/5/…/6123860?log…Two Peer-Reviewed case studies of induced lactation in trans women. Each case involved moderate quantities of milk production, and the childrens’ health was observed to be developmentally appropriate.

doi.org/10.1186/s13006-020-00308-6Peer-Reviewed survey of healthcare professionals’ experiences in inducing lactation in transgender women. Provider reports cover more than 13 direct cases and 17 providers with additional knowledge of programs for inducing lactation in trans women.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10632490/www.thebreastonline.com/article/…/fulltextwww.endocrinepractice.org/article/…/fulltextPeer-Reviewed studies demonstrating that through HRT, trans women’s breasts become anatomically and functionally identical to cis women’s breasts.

journals.sagepub.com/doi/…/08903344231170559Peer-Reviewed analysis of the nutritional content in a transgender woman’s breast milk. The nutrients in her breast milk were found to be better than reference levels in every category. This is consistent with the literature on the nutritional contents of breast milk from inducing lactation in cis women (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25288606/). Lactation has even been observed in cisgender men, and the nutritional contents of male milk is within reference levels for normal lactating cis women (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7462406/)

www.breastfeedingnetwork.org.uk/domperidone/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK501371/Domperidone, the galactagogue commonly prescribed for inducing lactation, is safe and effective for young, healthy women breastfeeding. “NO adverse events were noted in mothers or children”

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK501101/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK501296/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK501345/Spironolactone, Estradiol, and Progesterone, the three medications commonly prescribed for transfeminine HRT, are safe to use while breastfeeding.

Turkey_Titty_city , in Disney Uses Theme Park Characters In First Actorless Red Carpet Since SAG-AFTRA Strike

f disney

jimbolauski ,

Yeah fuck them for promoting a movie that will benefit many of the actors because of the higher revenue.

There are many reasons to hate the mouse this is not one.

Blamemeta , in Riots in France Highlight a Vicious Cycle Between Police and Minorities

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  • fearout , (edited )
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    What do you mean by “too many too quickly”? If it’s about immigrants, I don’t see how it’s actually relevant here. Police attacks mentioned in the article (and that were happening in general) were against black/minority French citizens, not newly taken in immigrants. Plus the police force itself doesn’t consist of immigrants.

    And Europeans becoming poorer is a wealth redistribution problem first and foremost (with an aging population sprinkled in).

    Sure, there are shitty people amongst immigrants, but in a similar proportion to the amount of shitty people in general. It’s not the reason. Kinda looks like shifting the blame.

    Turkey_Titty_city , in What the Freakout Over Trans Women Breastfeeding Is Really About

    This is the first I have heard of transwomen breastfeeding.

    Sounds incredibly complicated vs having a wet nurse/milk doner

    little_cow OP ,

    www.breastfeedingnetwork.org.uk/domperidone/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK501371/Domperidone, the galactagogue commonly prescribed for inducing lactation, is safe and effective for young, healthy women breastfeeding. “NO adverse events were noted in mothers or children”

    LostCause , in Europeans Are Becoming Poorer. ‘Yes, We’re All Worse Off.’

    This reads like DARVO - Corporate Edition with a derogatory jab towards free time and unions both.

    I work 30h now too and thus I suppose this is aimed at people like me, but tell you what: the job I applied to was actually only approved by HR/payroll for 30h max, the company doesn‘t WANT to pay more than this and they knew they wouldn‘t find anyone experienced to sell 40h of their life for such a measly salary.

    So we managed to find a mutually beneficial agreement, I get to live and exist like a frugal monk, perpetually renting and never owning anything (the European dream!), and they filled a position at 70%, pocketing 30% of the salary they would have had to pay to attract a full time worker.

    Now, how is it my fault I can’t spend like an American and the economy stagnates then? It‘s maybe a shared responsibility, but truly, the company is the one in charge here and if they told me I have to work full time and get that 30% more pay too, I probably would (since I kinda like my current job oddly enough and don‘t want to switch again yet).

    lemmyshmemmy , in EU seeks to revive Latin America, Caribbean ties as it turns away from China, Russia

    Good, China had shown it’s not trustworthy.

    skhayfa , in Europeans Are Becoming Poorer. ‘Yes, We’re All Worse Off.’

    Americans are becoming poorer. 'Yes, We’re All Worse Off." A middle class overworked by its CEO set the stage for economic regression. Then came greedflation and federal rates increases.

    elbowdrop , in Airbnb is adding cleaning fees to a new 'total price' of bookings in search results after people complained listings were misleading

    I travel for work. Just stay at a Hampton Inn. Always coffee, breakfast, clean. Not to mention its usually close to whatever you want to go to. The garden Inn is good also, as well as holiday express. I don’t like double tree, even though they give you cookies.

    Also Hamptons have a shuttle to theme parks in Orlando. Its really easy to wake up and eat breakfast then get driven to the park. Done need to worry about parking, where to get breakfast or how to get back.

    It seems I went on a little rant. Oh well.

    riverjig ,
    @riverjig@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m a fan of the Holiday Inn Express. Always consistent.

    0110010001100010 ,

    And those cinnamon rolls too, so tasty.

    marmo7ade ,

    I’m not traveling for work. I’m traveling with my friends, for pleasure.

    Last week a group of us went to Boston for the weekend. We got an Air BnB downtown. It was like a large apartment. It is far more pleasurable and easier for the group to be in that type of setting. We can socialize, make plans, and all leave at the same time as a group. This saves time.

    The alternative of having each couple have their own hotel room is more expensive, less efficient, and less enjoyable.

    I don’t care about Hampton Inn breakfast. I care about my mates.

    sadreality , in Europeans Are Becoming Poorer. ‘Yes, We’re All Worse Off.’

    Corpo shills going to put out propaganda...

    Clowns in charge make mistakes, slaves pay the toll

    Ragnell , in 'A lot of blood in the water.' Why actors' and writers' strikes are a big blow to Hollywood studios
    @Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

    They really are going to try to win a Public Relations War against a group of people selected SPECIFICALLY for their charisma and likeability. Wow.

    fearout , (edited ) in Airbnb is adding cleaning fees to a new 'total price' of bookings in search results after people complained listings were misleading
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    I’ve been using airbnb for month-long rentals across Europe and I still haven’t found a good alternative.

    There are no hotels that offer even remotely similar apartment size/price ratios. And I prefer apartments specifically, living in a hotel for a long time is just weird. All my airbnb hosts for the last two years have also been great. Btw, all were actual apartment owners, so none of that corporate crap. Many were helpful showing interesting places or best restaurants/shops around the neighbourhood.

    On the other hand, local rental services and websites either have listings that start at 3+ months, or are completely unreliable, either taking weeks to reply or changing their mind on price or availability a few days before the arrival date.

    And airbnb in Europe had that checkbox to display the final price since forever, so you’re not getting unknowingly ripped off anyway.

    Is there something usable besides airbnb for 1–1.5 month long rentals across EU? At this point I’m not sure if it’s even a good idea to look for one.

    TenderfootGungi ,

    It is different in Europe because of stronger consumer protection laws.

    player2 ,

    Vrbo is another option but more geared towards vacation rentals.

    Personally I’ve had good experiences overall with Airbnb but it takes research to find the good ones from the suspicious listings.

    Tar_alcaran , in Europeans Are Becoming Poorer. ‘Yes, We’re All Worse Off.’

    I’d LOVE to see all these figures redone with medians instead of averages or totals.

    Atramentous ,

    Yep. Wealth inequality in the U.S. really skews the perception in a lot of comparisons from country to country when using average income

    Ragnell , in A Trooper Issued More than 1,000 Fake Tickets. Connecticut Police Won’t Say Whether He Still Has a Job
    @Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

    When police resist reform they give us no choice but abolition.

    novibe , in EU seeks to revive Latin America, Caribbean ties as it turns away from China, Russia

    Lol good luck with Latin America. It’s pretty split between China and the US Empire/“the west”.

    With the recent small wave of “left leaning” politicians winning in many places, many started to turn to China again.

    And all in all China is a more attractive partner, because they usually pursue more equal deals compared to the IMF/“west”. Also they don’t call the global south a “jungle” while saying Europe is a garden lmao

    But it doesn’t matter. In some years the US backed political parties will win again (after magically arresting another opponent, or killing them, couping them etc.) and turn to the EU and US again.

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