This is something I’m wanting to bring up in our next union negotiations. Anyone working in the heat needs this ironed out before the next few years, as summers just keep getting worse. It’s ridiculous there aren’t laws for this yet.
Exactly. I'm adopted. I'm pro choice. But this isn't really the own it's getting implied to be. It really just highlights that statistics can support an argument, but you can't really make an argument based solely on stats.
Well, asking a christofacist conservative to think logically and empathetically vs emotionally and personally is like asking a rock to talk to you. It will never happen.
The traits that make a diehard conservative are counterintuitive to thinking in a macroscale; I literally dont think they are capable of it.
You mean treat genetics defects like the ones detailed in the article? Where the babies couldn’t breathe because of the defect, the hemispheres of their brain didn’t separate properly and there was no hope of life? How about ones where their brain stem is exposed and they’ll never live? Or the ones where the brain never formed at all? It would be great if we could find cures and treatment for these things. But it’s pretty damn hard to treat something so tremendously wrong when the babies die within days to hours.
I have a hard time feeling back for these people who year in, year out they vote for the same right wing fascists and then one day the policies those fascists support finally come back and bite them in the ass.
“Abortion is limited in most western nations” isn’t even a arguement about whether abortion should or should not have limits. Congratulations, you’ve spent multiple comments arguing something irrelevant and you completely missed the point. Pat yourself on the back for that one.
She was 28 weeks (6.5 months) pregnant. The survival rate for babies born at at 28 weeks is 80%. ( source: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1117667/ ). This wasn’t a fetus, this was a fully formed baby.
I fully support right to choose, but this wasn’t abortion…it was murder followed by coverup. Everyone getting riled up over the social justice of this has plenty of things to be riled up over these days, but this isn’t one of those things.
At what point do you think it’s unethical? Or do you have no line that can’t be crossed. At 28 weeks, it’s a fully formed baby that can survive outside the womb with an 80% survival rate…that’s way past any reasonable and ethical line.
How exactly is a 28 week old baby “fully formed” when pregnancies are usually 40 weeks long? Do they just chill for 12 whole weeks doing nothing? Or are you ready to admit you’re just talking out of your ass? Try applying reason to your own arguments before wasting my time with whatever poorly thought out nonsense you’re coming in here to spout.
It’s unethical to tell woman what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. Trying to argue “well before x weeks it’s fine, after that it’s unethical” is misleading nonsense. If it’s not your body, it’s none of your fucking business. End of discussion.
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